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78 RPM Record

Artist: Louis Armstrong And His Sebastian New Cotton Club Orchestra Label:   OKeh Country: USA Catalogue: 41486 Date: Mar 1931 Format: 10" Genre: Jazz, Vocal Collection:   I Own It     I Want It  Community:  2 Own Price Guide: $41 » Search eBay #AD  » Search Amazon #AD This site contains affiliate links for which we may be compensated.

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Track	Artist	Title	Composer	Rating
A	Louis Armstrong And His Sebastian New Cotton Club Orchestra	Just A Gigolo	Casucci, Caesar	Rate
B	Louis Armstrong And His Sebastian New Cotton Club Orchestra	Shine	Dabney, Brown, Mack	Rate

Notes

Fox Trot with Vocal Refrain

Louis Armstrong, t, v / George Orendorff, Harold Scott, t / Luther Craven, tb / Les Hite, as, bs, conductor / Marvin Johnson, as / Charlie Jones, cl, ts / Henry Prince, p / Bill Perkins, bj, sg / Joe Bailey, sb, bb / Lionel Hampton, d, vib

Side A: mx. ⓦ404420A
Side B: mx. ⓦ404421C
Recorded in Los Angeles, CA on March 9, 1931

Images

Number: 3566860  THUMBNAIL Uploaded By: han enderman Edited By: scrough Description: OKeh 41486 A side label (Bridgeport pressing) (#1 A)	Number: 3566861  Uploaded By: han enderman Description: OKeh 41486 B side label (Bridgeport pressing) (#1 B)	Number: 3566368  Uploaded By: cyeaman SUBS Description: OKeh 41486 A side label (Oakland, CA pressing)	Number: 3566370  Uploaded By: cyeaman SUBS Description: OKeh 41486 B side label (Oakland, CA pressing)
Number: 3566567  Uploaded By: Mike Gann Description: OKeh 41486 A side label (Bridgeport repress) (#2A)	Number: 3566870  Uploaded By: han enderman Edited By: scrough Description: OKeh 41486 B side label (Bridgeport repress) (#2 B)	Number: 3566872  Uploaded By: han enderman Edited By: scrough Description: OKeh 41486 A side label (Bridgeport repress) (#3 A)	Number: 3566873  Uploaded By: han enderman Edited By: scrough Description: OKeh 41486 B side label (Bridgeport repress) (#3 B)
Number: 3567499  Uploaded By: xiphophilos Description: OKeh 41486 A side label (Bridgeport repress) (#4 A)	Number: 3566875  Uploaded By: han enderman Edited By: scrough Description: OKeh 41486 B side label (Bridgeport repress) (#4 B)

Comments and Reviews

cyeaman SUBS 18th May 2024		I'm starting to get the hang of these OKeh labels, thanks to Han. But, Man! What a tangled web! We didn't even touch on the blue labeled OKehs.
Mike Gann 18th May 2024		I had to give you props anyway xiphophilos. You know far more about these things than I do.
xiphophilos 18th May 2024		I've re-ordered the images now. And just to set the record straight, han enderman knows far, far more about OKeh pressings than me. I hardly own any of these late 1920s/early 1930s Okeh's, so I have never seriously looked into them.
cyeaman SUBS 18th May 2024		Thanks for all of that great information, Han! This is very useful.
han enderman 18th May 2024		OK 41486 - Of the (normal) Bridgeport pressings of this record 4 label types are known. I have added #1 AB, #2 B (Mike Gann added #2 A), #3 AB & #4 B (#4 A is on discogs). I assume that the first West Coast pressing was released at about the same time as the eastern version, and this already indicates that the original release is on small black label. When the 13-RE label type was replaced by the 2xRE type (referring to the patent legend at 5), the labels were black. New issues in the OK 40/41000 series with this type (2xRE small black) are 41370-41564. At the same time the registration legend below the OKeh logo was much shortened. The next type, starting with 41565 Clarence Williams, has small red labels with "Not licensed for Radio Broadcast" at 10. This license statement may be absent on some reprints. After a few issues a new red type starts with 41570, with Columbia instead of OKeh in the bottom line at 8, and the legend has a different font. 41588 is the last issue in this series. Before the 2xRE small black labels, there were ELECTRIC red labels with 13-23 patents (Jan '13-May '23 at 5). The last "red 13-23" in this series is 40851 (orig. issue of 40852 not seen; example is 40848 Miff Mole), and 40853 (Venuti) is black. The 40/41000 series remains black, while the 8000 & 45000 special series are red (!).
Mike Gann 17th May 2024
Mike Gann 17th May 2024
Mike Gann 17th May 2024		han enderman knows more about OKeh pressings than anyone else I know excepting xiphophilos.
cyeaman SUBS 17th May 2024		I've wondered the same. Surely, there must be some OKeh label experts out there. The black labels I added are from a West Coast pressing, but the patent information and needle promotion on the red and black labels are identical. The black label pressings have small (~32 mm) pressing rings, so must pre-date the switch to 70 mm rings that happened in either 1931 or 1932.
Mike Gann 17th May 2024		I believe the red labels were pressed before the black labels but maybe I need further schooling on this.
cyeaman SUBS 17th May 2024		Mike, why is your image an earlier pressing?
Mike Gann 17th May 2024		A-side label image added from an earlier pressing

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