78 RPM - Fritz Kreisler - Old Folks At Home (Swanee River) - Victor - USA

78 RPM Record

Artist:	Fritz Kreisler
Label:	Victor / Victrola [USA]
Country:	USA
Catalogue:	64130
Date:	Jul 1910
Format:	10"
Collection:	I Own It I Want It
Community:	2 Own
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Track	Artist	Title	Composer	Rating
A	Fritz Kreisler	Old Folks At Home (Swanee River)	Stephen C. Foster	Rate

Notes

Mx. B-8939
Take 2 recorded New York, NY, May 13, 1910.
Take 4 recorded New York, NY, February 7, 1916 (used for represses).
(DAHR)

The Talking Machine World, July 15, 1910, page 61: Record Bulletins for August, 1910 (i.e., released in late July 1910).

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Number: 1838939

THUMBNAIL
Uploaded By: MikePasta
Description: Victor Record 64130 A side label (1912-1913 repress)

Number: 1838940

Uploaded By: MikePasta
Description: Victor Record 64130 B side (1912-1913 repress, blank except for a stamped H)

Number: 1480441

Uploaded By: Bob1951
Description: Victrola 64130 label (1918-1923 repress)

Comments and Reviews


Bob1951 9th Jan 2019		Ok, I will keep putting Victrola labels under Victrola and Victor labels under Victor. Any change can be made by a moderator if deemed necessary. As for the RCA or Victor labels with starting with 15-, 20-, or 21-, etc., or any two digits with a - and 4 more digits such as 20-2328, I have been putting all of these in the RCA Victor label section. I see that some of these are being listed as Victor if they have a Victor label. Again, a moderator can move them if deemed necessary.



xiphophilos 9th Jan 2019		I guess I wasn't aware red-label Victor and Victrola records needed to be kept separate, so I did combine these two records here. I see we have a lot of other cases where we probably need to do the same. And then there is Victor Red Seal ... I seem to have opened a can of worms, and I am sorry, but I think I need guidance here. To name an analogous case, we also don't keep black-label Victors separate from their represses on black-label RCA Victors. They are, after all, the exact same record, even if Victor changed the label name to RCA Victor starting in Feb. 1946. We only list records solely under the RCA Victor label if they came out first after the name change (well, at least that's what I thought we do). Here is an example: Victor/ RCA Victor 20-1724. If we didn't combine the different represses into one entry for all copies of the same record with the same catalog number, we would also have to come up with different first release dates for each label variant, as on Discogs. I see that Jock_Girl once argued, in a 2013 Forum post, to leave all the different labels separate, resulting in five different red-label entries: Victor Victrola Victor Red Seal RCA Victor RCA Victor Red Seal So in the case of quite a few popular Classical recordings that stayed in the catalogue for decades we could end up with 3-5 entries for the same record.



Bob1951 9th Jan 2019		Have the Victor and Victrola sections been combined? Sorry, confused a little bit here.



xiphophilos 9th Jan 2019		Mike, your copy is quite a bit older than Bob's, although not the original pressing. As a rule of thumb, the Patents Label was used between 1908-1913, the Batwing Label between 1914-1926. I've added info to the Notes and to the captions of each label.



MikePasta 7th Jan 2019		I added images of my copy because of the difference. I also included the blank side to show that there is an "H" stamped on that side. The matrix on my copy is MM64130. I imagine my copy is a little newer for 2 reasons: 1. The name Victor is in the phonograph, and 2. the price is listed as $1.00 whereas the price listed in the "1921 Catalogue of Victor Records" is $1.25.