78 RPM - Carla Martinis - Ave Maria, Piena Di Grazia (Hail To Thee, Mary, Full Of Grace) / Oh Patria Mia (My Native Land) - Columbia - UK

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Artist:	Carla Martinis
Label:	Columbia
Country:	UK
Catalogue:	L.X. 1463
Date:	1951
Format:	12"
Collection:	I Own It I Want It
Community:	1 Owns
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Track	Artist	Title	Composer	Rating
A	Carla Martinis	Ave Maria, Piena Di Grazia (Hail To Thee, Mary, Full Of Grace)	Verdi, Boito	Rate
B	Carla Martinis	Oh Patria Mia (My Native Land)	Verdi, Ghislanzoni	Rate

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Soprano in Italian and The Philharmonia Orchestra, conducted by Issay Dobrowen.
Side A - From "Otello" (Act 4).
Side B - From "Aida" (Act 3).

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xiphophilos 4th Sep 2017		So you made all the changes, Redpunk! No wonder the entry looks exemplary now.



Redpunk SUBS 4th Sep 2017		Members can access the Title option only after they have added the 78 by using the Missing Info option at the base of the page. As you said, the only option I had as the 78 had different Operas on each side is to use the Notes section. It prevents the tracks looking too cluttered and causing confusion about the track title. Obviously SECTIONBREAK would be preferable if available.



xiphophilos 3rd Sep 2017		I think the way you handled it now, with the name and act number of the operas in the Notes, is perfect. When both recordings are from the same opera, I have also used the Title option under the catalog number to enter the title. Unfortunately, that option is only available to moderators when they open "Edit Record Details". Not sure why it's not available to everyone right away.



jaimeeduardo 3rd Sep 2017		In checking Discogs, I find a similar situation— a jumble of practices, typos, etc. I guess it remains for some future system to find solutions.



jaimeeduardo 3rd Sep 2017		I seldom work with 78rpm, so I wasn't aware of that. However, the layout for sectionbreak material is so common for classical recordings that the feature would be very useful for 78s. The titles can be written: Otello (Act 4) Ave Maria, Piena Di Grazia (Hail To Thee, Mary, Full Of Grace) and Aida (Act 3) Oh Patria Mia (My Native Land) This adheres exactly to the label layout. Discographies often use periods to break up the title sections: Aida. O patria mia, etc., and older records in 45Worlds, before the introduction of Sectionbreaks, as I recall, can be seen with this layout. Some of the examples seen in 45Worlds input are virtually unfindable since title elements have been eliminated in their entirety. The main title (Aida) and the part title (O patria mia) are necessary title elements, if present on the label. _______ Other classical title label examples help make this clear: [1] First Movement Symphony No. 1 Beethoven [2] Piano Sonata No. 1 First Movement Mozart [3] A: Verdi Prelude La Traviata B: Sempre Libera La Traviata Verdi For the first example, the part title First Movement is indistinctive. Only with the main title and part title does it become clearer (and through the composer field's information). The title would be transcribed as Symphony No. 1. First Movement For the second example, the title would be transcribed Piano Sonata No. 1. First Movement The third sontains a generic part title and specific part title, transcribed as: La Traviata. Prelude / La Traviata. Sempre Libera With Sectionbreaks, the third example would appear more simply as: La Traviata A: Prelude B: Sempre Libera _____ MusicBrainz has a related example of title transcriptions at https://musicbrainz.org/release/3bb2e521-9819-4f6c-bae0-fba62bf9aec6. Though there is a typo on Track 1 of their example, the remainder of the titles appear correct. Their title transcription for O patria mia: Aida: Qui Radames verrá... O Patria mia This includes the main work title, the recitative title and the aria title, as on the label or other source of track data. _______ Even ebay has a reasonable description of the item: Otello Act 4 Ave Maria 12" 78 COLUMBIA LX1463



Redpunk SUBS 3rd Sep 2017		There is no SECTIONBREAK function on this world that's why the operas are in the Notes section.



jaimeeduardo 2nd Sep 2017		These are two soprano opera arias: Ave Maria, piena di grazia from Otello and O patria mia ('Oh patria mia' is the odd spelling seen on the label) from Aida. The aria titles are translated here as Hail to Thee, Mary, Full of Grace and My Native Land. The arias are sung in the original Italian. Sectionbreaks are used to distinguish the titles of main works (Otello and Aida) from the titles of selections.

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