CD Album - Captain Beefheart And His Magic Band - The Legendary A&M Sessions - Edsel

CD Album

Artist:	Captain Beefheart And His Magic Band
Title:	The Legendary A&M Sessions
Label:	Edsel
Country:	UK
Date:	10 Nov 1998
Catalogue:	BLIMPCD902
Barcode:	5104757179020
Format:	CD Album
Collection:	I Own It I Want It
Community:	2 Own
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Track	Artist	Title	Composer	Rating
01	Captain Beefheart And His Magic Band	Diddy Wah Diddy	McDaniel, Dixon	Rate
02	Captain Beefheart And His Magic Band	Who Do You Think You're Fooling?	Van Vliet	Rate
03	Captain Beefheart And His Magic Band	Moonchild	Gates	Rate
04	Captain Beefheart And His Magic Band	Frying Pan	Van Vliet	Rate
05	Captain Beefheart And His Magic Band	Here I Am I Always Am	Van Vliet	Rate

Notes

Both sides of Captain Beefheart's two 1966 singles for A&M plus the unreleased "Here I am, I always am".

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albert 11th Apr 2018		When looking at these kinds of releases I think the first step clearly must be one to decide whether it is a single or not a single, and generally if it is a single then there is a lead track being pushed. In this case the purpose of this CD is stated as "The Legendary A&M Sessions" with none of the tracks being pushed above any other, so we can conclude it is not a single. The original retail price would be another indicator. The idea of maxi-singles, mini-LPs etc seems to be a hangover from the days of vinyl when mini-LPs often got pressed onto 10" vinyl playing at 33, and maxi-singles were usually 4 track EPs playing at 45 and generally held songs that were past their sell-by date, or were misfits - neither single or album material. When the disco age came along so did the idea of putting a single onto a 12" format for a louder and better defined sound, and unfortunately messed things up with notions on physical formats. Personally I would like CDs to be categorised as either as a single or an album, and that's it. People may have forgotten but when CDs were originally produced there were actually 2 size formats to distinguish between a single and an album and the tray on your CD player had an indentation to accommodate the smaller discs. If we are going to have a CD mini-album then why not have a CD bloati-album to describe those releases that include surplus bonus tracks tacked onto the end. The length of the album seems to me to be irrelevant, this release is currently categorised as a CD Album and that's good with me - it also makes things easier when looking through collections.



Apollo59 12th Apr 2017		Without wishing to rock the boat any further, it should be noted that technically this was not released for Singles Charts entry purposes on any of it's previous three releases, October 1984 on A&M, October 1986 on Edsel, March 1992 on Edsel. It is listed on some archives as a Mini LP.



Lee Wrecker 28th Feb 2016		Two days ago I used the rationale given here to justify this release as an album on 11 of my own 5 song CD Singles. I requested whether they should be re-entered as albums and received an overwhelming response to this question. All 11 were unequivocally deemed to be singles so what's so special about this release?? I believe it should be deleted from this land and I have (months ago) already listed it as a single. Currently this item is listed in both lands and there is no justifiable reason for it to be here in my view.



gregs45s SUBS 19th Dec 2015		@robozuc.Dear oh dear here i go again offending someone when i didn't mean to because i made a comment in my ham-fisted way and appear to have cocked it up again.I really don't need a reminder of all the good work you Moderators do,you all of course do a great job,and i in no way intended to have a go at anyone,it's just that lately,i've noticed more items being duplicated,and was trying to point out that often,there is surely no need to have two entry's when one would suffice (with notes).I also appreciate that Moderators are often "snowed-under" with work,and don't always have the time they would like to make a decision,(a factor i admit i neglected to include in my comment)but i still have to ask then,if in doubt,why create two entry's when one would do?.So apologies again,you know i only care about the site,and was concerned that this may prove to be a problem later on.(From a member who everyday (almost;) adds items to the site,not for money,but for passion;)



robozuc ● 19th Dec 2015		@gregs78s I understand and respect your point of view, I think that any decision will be taken will have, in this particular case, maximum consensus. About..."Moderators to make decisions,and not to be ambiguous.A Moderator needs to decide whether this is..." I would like to kindly remind you that every day moderators spend their time to take hundreds of decisions, in all Worlds, to accept or reject or approve items, corrections, comments etc... not for money but only for passion.



gregs45s SUBS 19th Dec 2015		@robozuc.I fear that i may have been misunderstood here,my concern is not whether it is a CD Album or a CD Single,but rather that there should only be one entry (with notes added),and not two.



robozuc ● 19th Dec 2015		@gregs78s I personally believe that this item should be in CD Album, as Mini-Album, but I'm a democratic person and I think to open a discussion on this issue is good for partecipation to all members in the life of this wonderful site.



RogerFoster 19th Dec 2015		This debate reminds me of the palaver when This release ("Jack your Body" by Steve "Silk" Hurley) got to #1 on the UK singles chart early in 1987. The record was released on a 12" single with 4 different mixes and a total playing time of over 28 minutes ... was it an LP (the playing time was long enough) or was it a single (it played at 45rpm). I think the UK record companies/magazines/chart compilers etc. came to some consensus in the end that to qualify as a "single" a vinyl release had to have some maximum playing time that was considerably less than 28 minutes, but this one was allowed through as an exception.



Lee Wrecker 19th Dec 2015		Well if it must be one or the other it's a maxi single for mine 5 songs in 15 minutes is not an album or even a mini album. You could fit this on a 7'" vinyl EP no problems so it is essentially an EP's worth of music. The question is then does that constitute a Mini album and in that respect I'd say no. The Cramps' Gravest Hits will pose a similar problem although it is significantly longer time wise. The distinction between mini album and maxi single is arbitrary and usually down to labeling - in cases where there is no labeling such as this it will be very difficult to decide.



gregs45s SUBS 19th Dec 2015		@The_Vinyl_Junkie.I'd have to say i disagree on this one(and i seem to be one of the few that is against duplication's).With all due respect we need Moderators to make decisions,and not to be ambiguous.A Moderator needs to decide whether this is either a Maxi-single or a Minialbum,it can't be both (and even if it is undecided we should only have one entry,surely?).If people come to the site and search for this and find it's a CD Single and a CD Album,then what sort of impression is that going to give?,it looks as though we don't know what we're doing.Therefore i think a decision should be made either way,and one should be deleted,(and here's the point),it doesn't matter if that decision is right or wrong,it's the fact that a decision has been made!,and if it's wrong it doesn't matter for the time being,it can always be altered at a later date,but surely it needs to be one thing only.Then a note need only be added to the remaining entry,something like "Some sites list this as a Maxi-single" or "Some sites list this as a Minialbum".I personally feel that unnecessary duplication can only lead to confusion further down the line,and that no entry should be duplicated.;)



The_Vinyl_Junkie SUBS 19th Dec 2015		I agree with Lee Wrecker. I can't see that it would cause any dramas to have it listed in both CD Singles and CD Albums. Perhaps a cross reference in the "Note" with something like "Also listed in CD xxxxxxx" I should probably list LOUD 2 in both.



Lee Wrecker 18th Dec 2015		Redpunk, and robozuc I agree there should be two listings, I listed this as a CD Maxi single the other day and I didn't look in CD albums for it at all and then when I moved on to my other Beefheart stuff I saw it in the CD albums. I feel that if you remove one it will keep turning up time and time again wherever it is removed from. So all in all two listings will be less work all round for the MODS.



robozuc ● 18th Dec 2015		CD Mini-Album or CD Maxi-Single ?