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Paul Urbahns
11th Feb 2022		Vinyl Album
The Four Seasons - On Stage With The Four Seasons		This album was also issued in true stereo. Unlike a typical "live" album by a rock and roll group of the day, it does not have their hits. The 4 Seasons was booked at the Copa in New York starting July 25, 1963. In addition to their hits, the contracted for special medleys of pop standards and show tunes. These medleys were designed to bridge their show to be entertaining to an adult audience. The medleys were arranged by Bill Heyer and Hank Beebe.

When the courts decided Bob Crewe still owed the Vee Jay label another album on their contract he edited down the Copa rehearsal tapes , recorded at Ohmstead Studios, to an album length that consisted primarily of the Heyer and Beebe medleys. Leaving out all the groups hit songs, previously on VJ, makes this a pretty lame album. Crewe did include a previously unissued single (probably required by the contract) then had his engineer, Bill McMeek into overdub Beatlemania type screaming audience. The audience overdub appears to be in mono, even on the stereo album version.

The complete unedited tapes of the Copa rehearsal appear to be lost.

Paul Urbahns
13th Jun 2020		Vinyl Album
The 4 Seasons - Edizione D'Oro (Gold Edition)		In answer to ppint. "does any 45catter know about the dates & details of these apparently subsequent stereo versions? - or am i simply wrong, and the different sound of the stereo versions is due simply to different sound quality choices being made when mixing stereo versions from the original tapes?"

On September 17, 1968 Bob Crewe submitted these alternate stereo versions of 4 Seasons hits for use on the Edizione Del Oro vinyl 2 album set. The reason was because the previous 4 Seasons albums including the Gold Vault of Hits series was a mixture of original mono singles (where no stereo mix existed) and stereo album versions on stereo releases.

Edizione D'Oro (Gold Edition) was intended to be the first all stereo release of the 4 Seasons greatest hits. Bob Crewe went back to his existing tapes, and came up with the following group of stereo versions of the songs to replace, generally, mono versions previously available. However, Crewe, like many producers of the time, would sometimes add vocal or instrumental parts directly to the 45 master and therefore that did not appear of stereo or multi-tracks. That is why most of these "alternate versions" are missing parts and do not sound like the hit versions played on the radio back in the 60s. Ronnie was the only song, "electronically rechanneled for stereo" because only a mono master existed.

It appears he still had multi-tracks to Big Man In Town and so he remixed it to give it a better stereo sound by centering all the vocals and splitting the music track. Previously issued stereo versions had the instruments in the left channel , background vocals in the right, and lead centered.

A8 Ain't That A Shame [ALTERNATE VERSION] 2:33
better known as the stereo underdub version (missing Nick Massi's vocals).

B1 Dawn (Go Away) [ALTERNATE EDIT] 2:11
This is the original version recorded at Atlantic studios with Tom Dowd engineering. Between the time the song was recorded for Atlantic and finally issued on Philips, Bob Crewe decided to add the "Pretty as" intro direct to the mono master with Frankie singing over Tommy DiVitos guitar strumming. This is mentioned in Charles Calello's book page 102. However Valli has been performing the ED version on stage at live concerts for years.

B3 Big Man In Town [ALTERNATE MIX] 2:44
All vocals are centered in the mix.

B5 Save It For Me [ALTERNATE VERSION]
The organ and vocals are different than the hit version.

B6 Girl Come Running [ALTERNATE EDIT] 3:00
Missing opening vocals

C1 Rag Doll [UNIQUE STEREO RELEASE] 3:00
Previous issues were mono

C4 Let's Hang On [ALTERNATE EDIT] 3:09
Missing opening vocals

D4 Silence Is Golden [UNIQUE STEREO MIX] 3:03
Previous issues were mono or rechanneled.



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