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7th Dec 2015, 9:45 PM
	23skidoo Member since Jul 2014 4061 Points	And it gets really annoying when people refuse to take shows seriously because they don't have sex or violence in them. Doctor Who just aired its three-part season finale and while fans can agree to disagree on certain aspects of the storytelling, that trilogy blew away everything I've seen on TV this year, including Game of Thrones. And wonder of wonders, it accomplished it by having the leading lady wearing the most conservative outfit possible for most of it (even her wrists are covered), the strongest words uttered are "hell", "bloody" and "arse" (and the last two are only considered curse words in the UK anyway), and while there is violence there is only one moment where we see blood and it's absolutely essential to the story and not gratuitous. Yet people turn their noses up at this. The interactions between Jenna Coleman and Peter Capaldi in the final episode make Jessica Jones look like amateur hour. Yet Jessica Jones gets all the press because everyone is going "look how cool it is - superheroes having sex and personal problems, oooo..." To echo Magic Marmalade, I'm not against sex and violence in film and TV as a whole. There are times where it's necessary for the story. And certainly if one is intending to make erotica, then fine (I mean Masters of Sex, Fifty Shades of Grey and The Affair are only about sex so it would render them pointless without it - though that still is no excuse for being hyper explicit about it). But it's gotten to the point where any new SF series that isn't directly aimed at children is going to have sex scenes in it (see The Expanse for one recent example, Orphan Black is another). Doctor Who is seriously an oasis in all this. And much as I love Doctor Who I wish there were more examples out there. (There are some more examples on regular network ... The Flash and Supergirl manage to stay clean though Supergirl has gotten more violent then I would have liked to see; Once Upon a Time is great but many see it as a soap opera; Agents of SHIELD went over the top with violence this year. But my argument is more related to the cable and streaming examples).