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3rd Sep 2013, 10:37 AM		#1 REPORT
	janiejjones Member since Aug 2011 4920 Points Moderator	Another example How do we deal with Series or sublabels? I might have been too quick using "Vogue" here? "Mode Serie"?

3rd Sep 2013, 7:01 PM		#2 REPORT
	TheJudge In-house specialist in drive-by moddings. Member since Dec 2012 3715 Points Moderator	I was going to mention this in the context of Phonogram issues from the 70s. A lot of them (Philips, Polydor, Vertigo, Blue Horizon) have 'secondary' designations, e.g. 'Polydor Select' or 'Vertigo Deluxe', but which only appear on the sleeve rather than the label. Can we agree that these should just be under, say 'Polydor' or 'Vertigo' and - if deemed desirable - put any such secondary category (which were probably price-range-related) in Notes?

3rd Sep 2013, 9:14 PM		#3 REPORT
	sladesounds Turning rebellion into money since 1962 Member since Nov 2009 6566 Points Moderator	Makes sense to me. Go with the main label and have in the notes the secondary details (sub label) as necessary.

15th Sep 2013, 10:47 PM		#4 REPORT
	TopPopper Member since Mar 2013 2612 Points	I've just become aware of an issue here - albums issued by "Various Artists". There are currently hundreds, but there will eventually be thousands - probably tens of thousands, all in the same category. I think they will need some sort of system - label, genre, series, whatever. Guinness Book of British Hit Albums sorts them by label, but they have a relatively small sample (those which charted) so that may or may not be the best way to go.

15th Sep 2013, 10:52 PM		#5 REPORT
	nboldock Lend me ten pounds and I'll buy you a drink. Member since Feb 2012 7198 Points Moderator	Lists may be our friends here... genres are undercover assassins.

15th Sep 2013, 11:08 PM		#6 REPORT
	TopPopper Member since Mar 2013 2612 Points	Maybe not Genres then. Lists is a good idea, but I still wonder if labels will need breaking up. Think Virgin for instance. There must have been 50 vinyl albums in the "Now" series, and several more, like "Now Christmas". Should these be a separate entity somehow?

16th Sep 2013, 1:29 AM		#7 REPORT
	Juke Jules SUBS Tell me he's lazy, tell me he's slow Member since Jan 2011 4138 Points Moderator	Yes, I always hope to see something meaningful if I click on links from a release. The individual 'artists' links will be good, but sorting of labels is only in the early stages, even on 45cat Of course we may be able to use 'linked releases' in some cases - for example HA.8129

16th Sep 2013, 9:06 AM		#8 REPORT
	carryonsidney ● a happy disposition is an omnious sign.... Member since Feb 2010 1707 Points Moderator	by coincidence I was just about to ask if it was possible to Link together "Memories Are Made Of Hits" so if you do search they show up together? I have a couple of these albums lurking somewhere on the shelves. (the trojan series Tighten Up - will be another example of a VA album linked by title? ) Edited by carryonsidney on 16th Sep 2013, 9:09 AM

16th Sep 2013, 9:11 AM		#9 REPORT
	sladesounds Turning rebellion into money since 1962 Member since Nov 2009 6566 Points Moderator	Juke Jules wrote: Yes, I always hope to see something meaningful if I click on links from a release. The individual 'artists' links will be good, but sorting of labels is only in the early stages, even on 45cat Of course we may be able to use 'linked releases' in some cases - for example HA.8129 List I would think are the way forward. The thoughts behind linking releases as you know was to show the same item being released like for like under different Cat#s, labels, countries etc. such as this album. It works with what you've done there JJ but it could go awry if these same albums were issued at a later date in another country or reissued with changes to labels/cat #s.

16th Sep 2013, 3:02 PM		#10 REPORT
	Orbiting Cat Member since Jan 2008 1183 Points Administrator	Juke Jules wrote: Of course we may be able to use 'linked releases' in some cases - for example HA.8129 The example you linked to is a series of records and should be implemented using a list. "Linked Releases" are for alternative releases of the same record. The problem is perhaps the term "linked releases", it's a bit ambiguous.

17th Sep 2013, 8:34 AM		#11 REPORT
	TopPopper Member since Mar 2013 2612 Points	Is it possible to change it, to "Alternative editions" or "other pressings" or something?

13th Oct 2013, 11:30 AM		#12 REPORT
	Dr Doom SUBS I wanna eat an artichoke once in a while Member since Feb 2008 25247 Points Administrator	nboldock wrote: Lists may be our friends here... genres are undercover assassins. I like that!

13th Oct 2013, 9:18 PM		#13 REPORT
	nboldock Lend me ten pounds and I'll buy you a drink. Member since Feb 2012 7198 Points Moderator	Dr Doom wrote: nboldock wrote: Lists may be our friends here... genres are undercover assassins. I like that! I think I may have been slightly tipsy when I wrote that actually...

13th Oct 2013, 9:54 PM		#14 REPORT
	Dr Doom SUBS I wanna eat an artichoke once in a while Member since Feb 2008 25247 Points Administrator	nboldock wrote: Dr Doom wrote: nboldock wrote: Lists may be our friends here... genres are undercover assassins. I like that! I think I may have been slightly tipsy when I wrote that actually... All the better!

14th Oct 2013, 12:01 AM		#15 REPORT
	bobzyeruncle Member since Jan 2013 28 Points	nboldock wrote: Dr Doom wrote: nboldock wrote: Lists may be our friends here... genres are undercover assassins. I like that! I think I may have been slightly tipsy when I wrote that actually... One of your local breweries just won Roger Protz' nomination for World's best Beer. You're forgiven!

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