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| 24th Mar 2014, 3:29 AM | #1 REPORT | |
 | bobzyeruncle Member since Jan 2013 28 Points | I have quite a few to post, but unfortunately can't establish dates for them. Most are from the first batch to be released, it would seem. Amazing how little help google has been about this. Cheers in advance! Edited by bobzyeruncle on 24th Mar 2014, 3:29 AM |
| 24th Mar 2014, 5:30 AM | #2 REPORT | |
 | Redpunk SUBS Crates Are For Digging Member since Aug 2012 25448 Points Moderator | If you can't find the date just add the cassette anyway. Another member can add the date using the missing info button if they know it. |
| 24th Mar 2014, 8:59 AM | #3 REPORT | |
 | PhilMH SUBS Member since Jan 2012 1055 Points | This wikipedia article may help a little, and talks about when cassettes were introduced in some regions, they suggest late 1965 for Europe: Wikipedia - Compact Cassette You could also try searching old issues of BILLBOARD in Google Books, they might at least have articles mentioning when certain companies were introducing cassettes in particular countries, even if they don't mention specific titles. I think GRAMOPHONE (UK) back issues are in Google Books too, so they might include lists or reviews of new cassettes, if you're lucky. Edited by PhilMH on 24th Mar 2014, 9:00 AM |
| 24th Mar 2014, 9:14 AM | #4 REPORT | |
| PhilMH SUBS Member since Jan 2012 1055 Points | I'll just add that I have the UK Decca main catalogue for 1974, which has indexes at the back for LP's and tapes under their alpha prefixes, and there are no cassettes or 8-tracks listed with release dates earlier than 1970 - October of that year is the earliest date listed for anything in the KSKC series (equivalent of full-price SKL LP's). Surely that can't be right, I would have thought Decca as the second UK major would have introduced cassettes before that, the only explanation i can think of is that someone else manufactured their cassettes before October 1970, and so they had different catalogue number prefixes. Anyway, if you have anything on Decca, London, Deram, Threshold, Argo, Beltona, etc, give me a shout, and I'll look it up. |
| 24th Mar 2014, 5:05 PM | #5 REPORT | |
| bobzyeruncle Member since Jan 2013 28 Points | Many thanks, guys!  From the look of the 'Musicassettes' I've got, that appear to be pre-seventies they seem to all be Phillips product, although they're on CBS, Pye, Reprise, A&M, etc. Nice bit of ephemera packed into my copy of Dionne Warwick's "On Stage & In The Movies" is a mini-catalogue of available releases spanning several labels. No date is given on it, but the fashions worn by the models seen enjoying their cassettes narrows it down from possibly mid-1967 to early-1969. Cheers, again! Edited by bobzyeruncle on 24th Mar 2014, 5:06 PM |
| 24th Mar 2014, 6:38 PM | #6 REPORT | |
 | LouisSidney Member since May 2012 10661 Points | The French EMI catalog lists cassettes in its June '68 edition. The French Barclay catalog lists cartridges in its September '67 edition. The French Philips catalog lists cassettes in its June '67 edition. There are no cassettes in the '66 edition. Edited by LouisSidney on 24th Mar 2014, 7:08 PM |
| 24th Mar 2014, 10:58 PM | #7 REPORT | |
| Microgroove60 Member since Mar 2014 35 Points |
PhilMH wrote:
I'll just add that I have the UK Decca main catalogue for 1974, which has indexes at the back for LP's and tapes under their alpha prefixes, and there are no cassettes or 8-tracks listed with release dates earlier than 1970 - October of that year is the earliest date listed for anything in the KSKC series (equivalent of full-price SKL LP's)....
Interesting that Decca had not released any cassettes earlier than 1970. I have been trying to find a release date for this one: KSKC4014. The original vinyl was released in 1958 on the London label but this tape appears to be a much later issue. |
| 25th Mar 2014, 2:42 AM | #8 REPORT | |
| PhilMH SUBS Member since Jan 2012 1055 Points |
Microgroove60 wrote:
Interesting that Decca had not released any cassettes earlier than 1970. I have been trying to find a release date for this one: KSKC4014. The original vinyl was released in 1958 on the London label but this tape appears to be a much later issue.
I'll look that one up for you tomorrow night, as I'm busy tonight. Also an interesting fact that I picked up last night when browsing BILLBOARD trying to find any earlier tape dates for Decca, is that RCA UK contracted with Decca in late 1970 to manufacture their (RCA's) new cassettes, which up until then had been manufactured in Rome! |
| 26th Mar 2014, 7:29 AM | #9 REPORT | |
| PhilMH SUBS Member since Jan 2012 1055 Points |
Microgroove60 wrote:
PhilMH wrote:
I'll just add that I have the UK Decca main catalogue for 1974, which has indexes at the back for LP's and tapes under their alpha prefixes, and there are no cassettes or 8-tracks listed with release dates earlier than 1970 - October of that year is the earliest date listed for anything in the KSKC series (equivalent of full-price SKL LP's)....
Interesting that Decca had not released any cassettes earlier than 1970. I have been trying to find a release date for this one: KSKC4014. The original vinyl was released in 1958 on the London label but this tape appears to be a much later issue. I have just updated that entry with October 1970 release date from the 1974 catalogue. Original UK LP issue on Decca SKL 4014 was October 1958. |
| 26th Mar 2014, 8:36 PM | #10 REPORT | |
| Microgroove60 Member since Mar 2014 35 Points |
PhilMH wrote:
I have just updated that entry with October 1970 release date from the 1974 catalogue. Original UK LP issue on Decca SKL 4014 was October 1958.
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| 27th Mar 2014, 3:57 PM | #11 REPORT | |
| YankeeDisc SUBS When in doubt.......accelerate........ Member since Dec 2010 734 Points | I was given a Walker Bros. (The Walker Brothers – Portrait, main cat.# LP Philips SBL.7732 ) release retail cassette shell without a case or an inlay card, by an in-law in circa 1968. Philips label if I'm correct, and of course they held the patent for musicassettes. I think the date on it was ℗1966 for publishing. I have 200 or more pre-recorded cassettes stored away, and I'll have to dig them out for entering. Edited by YankeeDisc on 27th Mar 2014, 4:10 PM |
| 27th Mar 2014, 3:59 PM | #12 REPORT | |
 | nboldock Lend me ten pounds and I'll buy you a drink. Member since Feb 2012 7247 Points Moderator |
YankeeDisc wrote:
I have 200 or more pre-recorded cassettes stored away, and I'll have to dig them out for entering.
That's the spirit |
| 27th Mar 2014, 4:25 PM | #13 REPORT | |
| YankeeDisc SUBS When in doubt.......accelerate........ Member since Dec 2010 734 Points | @nboldock.....thanks, I'll do my duty............. I went onto discogs, they list cassettes as follows...... 108,276 Rock 92,462 Electronic 26,443 Pop 15,937 Hip Hop 12,027 Folk, World, & Country 8,841 Non-Music 6,662 Funk / Soul 6,515 Jazz 3,421 Classical 3,026 Stage & Screen 2,831 Reggae 2,097 Blues 1,792 Children's 1,654 Latin 250 Brass & Militaria You have to scroll through the whole list as listed, or genre, with no facility to search by year. I also looked up Philips Records (all product, 250+ pages, 100 entries per page), which you can search by year, but then have to go through page by page to find cassettes. Had a look through 1968, listed on page 55 and found one item, classical, no scans. |
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