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  29th Jun 2014, 2:48 PM#21  REPORT  
BiggieTembo

Member since Mar 2014
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Ok, here's another EMI cassette one from 1987, thanks to a recent upload by camshaft:

george-jones-loves-gonna-live-here-liberty-ca-t.jpg

MWE = M W Edwards Ltd, Mitcham, Surrey, originally set up by Delga as a company supplying paper and card materials to... ahem... Delga ;-)

Sources:
Delga Business
Martin Edwards

Edited by BiggieTembo on 29th Jun 2014, 2:57 PM

  29th Jun 2014, 3:15 PM#22  REPORT  
YankeeDisc SUBS

When in doubt.......accelerate........
Member since Dec 2010
729 Points
Hi Biggie, duly noted.

Question: when you added the image on your MWE posting, did you copy the image URL as seen on the page, before enlarging?

If I click on said image on your posting #21, I am taken to a page "Tape Image" with same size image, and with options to "Click image to view full size" or "View This Tape »", which will take me back to the relevant entry page.





  29th Jun 2014, 3:26 PM#23  REPORT  
BiggieTembo

Member since Mar 2014
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Yeah Yankee, that's what I get too. I think it's the way it's meant to be, programming-wise. I guess it's a few less clicks than if you just add a "hotlink", but hey, I'm one a them visual-types I guess ;)

Edited by BiggieTembo on 29th Jun 2014, 6:50 PM

  30th Jun 2014, 12:56 PM#24  REPORT  
BiggieTembo

Member since Mar 2014
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Glenn Miller cassette from the late 70s with a lower-case italic "h" as printer ID on the inner flap, bottom right-hand corner. Gawd knows who that is though....

glenn-miller-and-his-orchestra-dont-sit-under-the-apple-tree-with-anyone-else-but-me-rca-ca-t.jpg

You can peruse the entry here

Edited by BiggieTembo on 1st Jul 2014, 8:45 AM

  30th Jun 2014, 1:01 PM#25  REPORT  
BiggieTembo

Member since Mar 2014
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Another Delga Press logo ("dp") - same as the earlier ChangesOneBowie entry, on an RCA Elvis tape, uploaded by Redpunk. So we can be sure that RCA's cassette inlay printer of choice during the mid-70s was Delga

elvis-presley-the-wonder-of-you-ca-t.jpg


  30th Jun 2014, 1:32 PM#26  REPORT  
YankeeDisc SUBS

When in doubt.......accelerate........
Member since Dec 2010
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BiggieTembo wrote:
Another Delga Press logo ("dp") - same as the earlier ChangesOneBowie entry, on an RCA Elvis tape, uploaded by Redpunk. So we can be sure that RCA's cassette inlay printer of choice during the mid-70s was Delga

elvis-presley-the-wonder-of-you-ca-t.jpg

....agreed, but never say never, the record companies were never tied to one exclusive printer, and had to chop and change according to urgency of requirements, rather like using outside pressing contractors in UK or abroad to press singles that were headed for the top 10 or higher, and demand exceeded supply.


  1st Jul 2014, 8:11 AM#27  REPORT  
BiggieTembo

Member since Mar 2014
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Yeah you're right Yankee... "... printer of choice..." was maybe a tad generous. Subcontracting and parallel orders would have been commonplace with high demand, just as in any business... These damn inlays, though... Will we ever get to the bottom of them and really find out who printed what for which record company...? Especially when many inlays do not give any printer credit whatsoever... The only true way to find out would be to get hold of someone who worked for either the printers or the record companies during the periods discussed... Or alternatively, get hold of some of the internal documentation from, for example, EMI, if it hasn't been shredded... I wrote to Virgin EMI but they haven't replied yet. I'll try to get a note to Delga to see if they can shed some light om the whole affair - I'll keep you posted ;)


  1st Jul 2014, 2:13 PM#28  REPORT  
YankeeDisc SUBS

When in doubt.......accelerate........
Member since Dec 2010
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BiggieTembo wrote:
Yeah you're right Yankee... "... printer of choice..." was maybe a tad generous. Subcontracting and parallel orders would have been commonplace with high demand, just as in any business... These damn inlays, though... Will we ever get to the bottom of them and really find out who printed what for which record company...? Especially when many inlays do not give any printer credit whatsoever... The only true way to find out would be to get hold of someone who worked for either the printers or the record companies during the periods discussed... Or alternatively, get hold of some of the internal documentation from, for example, EMI, if it hasn't been shredded... I wrote to Virgin EMI but they haven't replied yet. I'll try to get a note to Delga to see if they can shed some light om the whole affair - I'll keep you posted ;)


.....nil desperandum BT, no use knocking yourself out, your input has been amazing thus far..............

......now I've massaged your ego a bit.........just enter what you know.
I stated before and I will state again, if no printer ID is visible, but you know who duplicated the tape, enter that information, with a note to that effect. More and more information will be uncovered as we move forward, who knows, a former journeyman printer, or a honcho at a tape duplicating might just join the fray, with all those tricky little kernels to enlighten us all with.

Think us lucky, US printers almost never added printing info. to picture sleeve 45s or LPs, let alone inlays for tapes, and their industry was/is enormous.......

I used to do business with a couple of printers years back as their Heating Engineer, but none printed any product relevant to the record industry to my knowledge.

I am a great believer in "something will always turn up", and we will be knee deep in useful information anytime soon............ :pleased:


  23rd Sep 2016, 1:51 AM#29  REPORT  
Tonypq

Member since Sep 2016
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The dp stands for Hellerman Data Packaging. I worked there as a quality inspector for a while. They manufactured the actual plastic components of the cassettes etc, i never saw any printed paper materials there.


  24th Nov 2016, 2:41 AM#30  REPORT  
YankeeDisc SUBS

When in doubt.......accelerate........
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Tonypq wrote:
The dp stands for Hellerman Data Packaging. I worked there as a quality inspector for a while. They manufactured the actual plastic components of the cassettes etc, i never saw any printed paper materials there.

...thanks for your update.....obliged.
The 'dp' as a raised feature on cassette shells is obviously not the same as "Delga Press Ltd.", who printed and made LP and 7" single and EP sleeves, although their logo dp does look the same at first glance.

Stop by again, we could use more information from you.......cheers.


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