|
45worlds Forums » Vinyl Albums » View Topic
| What is a 12" single? |
Add Reply
Page 1 of 2 : Previous : Next :
| 9th Mar 2015, 1:07 PM | #1 REPORT | |
 | whitewhale1965 Let's make it Better! Member since Jun 2012 12250 Points | I have a 4 track disc running 16 minutes per side. Where does it go? What is the factor[s] that changes a 12" single into an LP? Is it running time? Is it number of tracks? See HERE for a look at what is confusing me. |
| 9th Mar 2015, 2:27 PM | #2 REPORT | |
 | Jock_Girl A girl who looks good in vinyl Member since Dec 2012 1544 Points Moderator | This is actually an LP. Typically, back when when this was issued, the 'disco' single had no more than 2 tracks. In fact some where actually single sided especially as radio promos. Research in google helps If you look here -- it is an lp http://www.allmusic.com/album/dont-let-me-be-misunderstood-mw0000349300 Amy |
| 9th Mar 2015, 6:17 PM | #3 REPORT | |
| whitewhale1965 Let's make it Better! Member since Jun 2012 12250 Points | tnx! |
| 6th May 2015, 12:42 PM | #4 REPORT | |
 | RogerFoster To ignore is human, to follow is divine. Member since Jul 2014 3084 Points | I've just noticed that a "12" Single" that I entered a few weeks back ... http://www.45worlds.com/12single/record/champ1 Has also been entered as a "Vinyl LP" ... http://www.45worlds.com/vinyl/album/champ1 Should one of these go? Should they be cross-referenced? My rationale for entering it as a 12" single was that when I bought it on release it came with no inner sleeve, so I always thought of it as a various artists 12" single. However I can see why people would consider it to be an L.P. I've now got a follow up release to this to enter, called "Pre-Mixture", catalogue CHAMP2. This is the disc at Discogs (who describe it as an L.P. .... http://www.discogs.com/Various-Pre-Mixture/release/580413 Should I enter it as a 12", as a Vinyl L.P., both?? |
| 6th May 2015, 1:15 PM | #5 REPORT | |
 | TopPopper Member since Mar 2013 2612 Points | They sure look like 12-inch singles to me. |
| 6th May 2015, 4:56 PM | #6 REPORT | |
 | Juke Jules SUBS Tell me he's lazy, tell me he's slow Member since Jan 2011 4138 Points Moderator | Same here |
| 7th May 2015, 1:01 PM | #7 REPORT | |
| RogerFoster To ignore is human, to follow is divine. Member since Jul 2014 3084 Points | Pre-Mixture now entered as a 12" single, complete with a youtube link to my favourite track on it .. a perfect song for us all to practice in preparation for the next time we find ourselves at a Karaoke session!! |
| 6th Jul 2015, 12:37 AM | #8 REPORT | |
| Break-In Master Member since Dec 2013 251 Points | I think the only one I ever had trouble with was, "Into Battle With The Art Of Noise". It's supposed to be a 12" single, but it has at least 4 songs on each side and it has a title like an album does and it plays at 33 instead of 45. Also, the Art Of Noise live "album". It also played at 33 and had at least 3 tracks per side, but it was actually sold as a 12" single. 12" singles didn't really exist until the mid to late `70's. Mostly in the disco era. In most cases, they were played at 45, but a number of them were made as 33's. Most 12" singles had a label sized hole in the cover, just like the 7" single, and would usually be in a company cover instead of a specially designed cover, but, in England, they tended to make them WITH full picture covers. The ones I saw as GREAT waste of vinyl were the ones that'd have ONLY one song on each side and both songs were not more than 2:00 long!! Apparently the 7" version from the `60's wasn't good enough, so they HAD to repress it, usually a BIG hit song that was VERY popular and had thousands and thousands of copies still in circulation, like an early Beatles single, for instance, blowing three times the vinyl DURING AN OIL SHORTAGE!!!! |
| 6th Jul 2015, 10:00 AM | #9 REPORT | |
 | sladesounds Turning rebellion into money since 1962 Member since Nov 2009 6566 Points Moderator | The joys of determining what is a mini album, what is a 12", etc. plays on... there was a similar debate over on CD single world a while ago. I think the bottom line is a marketing one, if the company is promoting it as a 12" single (or Maxi EP) then really that's what it is. Normally the cat # they use can also be used as a guide but there are always exceptions! It's also worth looking to see if it charted and what chart it appeared in (i.e. album or single). The record speed is a bit of a red herring with some discs. Have a look at this one I added this weekend. Greatest Hits album? - Maxi EP on front sleeve so that's what I went with. |
| 6th Jul 2015, 4:47 PM | #10 REPORT | |
| Neil Forbes Rock, Country or R. & B. - Classic Hits for me! Member since Dec 2014 252 Points | Depends on the speed! If 33, is LP, if 45, is 12"single or EP(if more than one cut per side). |
| 7th Jul 2015, 5:41 AM | #11 REPORT | |
| Break-In Master Member since Dec 2013 251 Points |
Neil Forbes wrote:
Depends on the speed! If 33, is LP, if 45, is 12"single or EP(if more than one cut per side).
Not really, I've got a number of 12" singles that are 33's with only one fairly short track per side. |
| 7th Jul 2015, 10:33 AM | #12 REPORT | |
| sladesounds Turning rebellion into money since 1962 Member since Nov 2009 6566 Points Moderator |
Neil Forbes wrote:
Depends on the speed! If 33, is LP, if 45, is 12"single or EP(if more than one cut per side).
Record speed does not come into classification of albums, singles (12" or 7"), etc other than a 78 which was the last time I looked always a 78. |
| 8th Jul 2015, 4:46 AM | #13 REPORT | |
| Break-In Master Member since Dec 2013 251 Points |
sladesounds wrote:
Neil Forbes wrote:
Depends on the speed! If 33, is LP, if 45, is 12"single or EP(if more than one cut per side).
Record speed does not come into classification of albums, singles (12" or 7"), etc other than a 78 which was the last time I looked always a 78. |
| 8th Jul 2015, 3:43 PM | #14 REPORT | |
| Neil Forbes Rock, Country or R. & B. - Classic Hits for me! Member since Dec 2014 252 Points |
Break-In Master wrote:
Neil Forbes wrote:
Depends on the speed! If 33, is LP, if 45, is 12"single or EP(if more than one cut per side).
Not really, I've got a number of 12" singles that are 33's with only one fairly short track per side.  |
| 8th Jul 2015, 3:45 PM | #15 REPORT | |
 | zabadak ● Caddacack oh da ca-caddacack, shy shy skagellack Member since Jun 2010 4156 Points | There are some larger than 12" in diameter, I believe...  |
| 8th Jul 2015, 3:46 PM | #16 REPORT | |
| Neil Forbes Rock, Country or R. & B. - Classic Hits for me! Member since Dec 2014 252 Points |
zabadak wrote:
There are some larger than 12" in diameter, I believe...
|
| 8th Jul 2015, 11:13 PM | #17 REPORT | |
| Break-In Master Member since Dec 2013 251 Points |
Neil Forbes wrote:
Break-In Master wrote:
Neil Forbes wrote:
Depends on the speed! If 33, is LP, if 45, is 12"single or EP(if more than one cut per side).
Not really, I've got a number of 12" singles that are 33's with only one fairly short track per side. EXACTLY!! I remember seeing a 12" single with one of the first Beatles singles. each side was only just over 2;00 long!! WHAT was the point of that???? |
| 9th Jul 2015, 1:23 PM | #18 REPORT | |
| TopPopper Member since Mar 2013 2612 Points |
Break-In Master wrote:
I remember seeing a 12" single with one of the first Beatles singles. each side was only just over 2;00 long!! WHAT was the point of that????
£ £ £ £ £ £ £ £ £ |
| 9th Jul 2015, 7:04 PM | #19 REPORT | |
| Neil Forbes Rock, Country or R. & B. - Classic Hits for me! Member since Dec 2014 252 Points |
TopPopper wrote:
Break-In Master wrote:
I remember seeing a 12" single with one of the first Beatles singles. each side was only just over 2;00 long!! WHAT was the point of that????
£ £ £ £ £ £ £ £ £  |
| 9th Jul 2015, 9:56 PM | #20 REPORT | |
 | Graham7 Member since Apr 2012 6406 Points Moderator | "Pay No More Than a Penny a Second - £1.27" |
Page 1 of 2 : Previous : Next :
Add Reply
45worlds website ©2025 :
Homepage :
Search :
Sitemap :
Help Page :
Privacy :
Terms :
Contact :
Share This Page
Vinyl Albums : Live Music : 78 RPM : CD Albums : CD Singles : 12" Singles : 7" Singles : Tape Media : Classical Music : Music Memorabilia : Cinema : TV Series : DVD & Blu-ray : Magazines : Books : Video Games : Create Your Own World
Latest » Items : Comments : Price Guide : Reviews : Ratings : Images : Lists : Videos : Tags : Collected : Wanted : Top 50 : Random
45worlds for music, movies, books etc : 45cat for 7" singles : 45spaces for hundreds more worlds
:
Like us on Facebook
Vinyl Albums : Live Music : 78 RPM : CD Albums : CD Singles : 12" Singles : 7" Singles : Tape Media : Classical Music : Music Memorabilia : Cinema : TV Series : DVD & Blu-ray : Magazines : Books : Video Games : Create Your Own World
Latest » Items : Comments : Price Guide : Reviews : Ratings : Images : Lists : Videos : Tags : Collected : Wanted : Top 50 : Random
45worlds for music, movies, books etc : 45cat for 7" singles : 45spaces for hundreds more worlds