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| 18th Apr 2015, 9:05 PM | #1 REPORT | |
 | camerama Member since Apr 2015 2 Points | Hi forum, could anyone here perhaps help me with dating the following 78's that once belonged to my great-grandfather - thank you. Greetings from The Hague Holland Patrick van griethuysen burr henry shenandoa columbia a 2300 usa 1912 77098/ 77082 burr henry litte pal of long ago z onophone 3739 gb X-5-901 continental dance orch bygones/ the melody that made you mine domino 3476 usa 15852-31P/ 15848-21P courtland & jeffries wherever the girls are/ that wonderfull mother of mine hmv b 1073 gb HO 5367-3-4074/ HO375-5-2137 coyle edgar the vacant chair/ the song that reached my heart columbia 2580 gb 29487/ 29495 crescent trio sweet luana/ aloha oe winner 3645 gb 7064/ 7064 crooks richard beautifull island of somewhere/ all through the night hmv da 1265 gb 40-4932/ 40-3933 dalhart vernon the cowboy's dream/ burry me not on the lone prairie cameo 1203 usa 2546/ 2547 grossbart eddie springtime in the rockies/it happened at monterey winner 5164 gb 12972G/ 12973E kaufmann irving oh suzie behave columbia A2671 usa 78139 kaufmann irving you brought a new kind of love to me perfect 15311 usa 9720-3 layton & johnstone in the evening/ chiquita columbia 5116 gb A 7818/ A 7821 layton & johnstone billy boy/ talking to the moon columbia 4268 gb A 4871/ A 4865 two gilberts i'm going bring watermelon/ go along mule regal g 8292 gb A 1362/ A 1363 souhern dance band down on the farm/ honolulu blues guardsman 1501 gb G 679/ G 680 |
| 19th Apr 2015, 10:27 AM | #2 REPORT | |
 | Juke Jules SUBS Tell me he's lazy, tell me he's slow Member since Jan 2011 4138 Points Moderator | Patrick - I don't have much specialist knowledge and the only ones I have found so far are Columbia 2580: June 1915 Guardsmen 1501 and 5116 probably 1924 columbia 4268 probably 1927 [edit] winner 5164 probably 1930 winner 3645 prob 22 cameo 1203 prob 27 domino 3476 prob 25 Source: the Nauck/Barr dating guide Edited by Juke Jules on 19th Apr 2015, 10:56 AM |
| 20th Apr 2015, 8:47 PM | #3 REPORT | |
| scrough🍰 No picture 'cos I'm not into 45rpm :( Member since Jan 2013 3429 Points Moderator | The year dates for some of these labels are already documented on this site. Regal UK Columbia UK Winner These dates are probably more accurate than the guide Jules used, as they are extracted from complete listings of the labels by month of issue. |
| 21st Apr 2015, 9:10 AM | #4 REPORT | |
| fixbutte Member since Jan 2013 1483 Points Moderator | burr henry shenandoa columbia a 2300 usa 1912 77098/ 77082 --> 1917 continental dance orch bygones/ the melody that made you mine domino 3476 usa 15852-31P/ 15848-21P --> 1925 dalhart vernon the cowboy's dream/ burry me not on the lone prairie cameo 1203 usa 2546/ 2547 --> 1927 kaufmann irving oh suzie behave columbia A2671 usa 78139 --> 1918 kaufmann irving you brought a new kind of love to me perfect 15311 usa 9720-3 --> 1930 sources: http://www.78discography.com/discography.html |
| 22nd Apr 2015, 2:53 PM | #5 REPORT | |
| scrough🍰 No picture 'cos I'm not into 45rpm :( Member since Jan 2013 3429 Points Moderator | .. and I missed out Zonophone.. |
| 22nd Apr 2015, 10:55 PM | #6 REPORT | |
| Juke Jules SUBS Tell me he's lazy, tell me he's slow Member since Jan 2011 4138 Points Moderator | Let's hope camerama comes back to look... |
| 23rd Apr 2015, 7:00 PM | #7 REPORT | |
| camerama Member since Apr 2015 2 Points |
Juke Jules wrote:
Let's hope camerama comes back to look...
Yep, I have looked - thank you for your reply. This is however a very difficult site for a Linux user seems I can not find a window for to add some of my want list, have tried: forums, members, add item, want. all dead links. Pity, (sigh!) |
| 8th May 2015, 5:27 PM | #8 REPORT | |
| Neil Forbes Rock, Country or R. & B. - Classic Hits for me! Member since Dec 2014 252 Points |
camerama wrote:
Juke Jules wrote:
Let's hope camerama comes back to look...
Yep, I have looked - thank you for your reply. This is however a very difficult site for a Linux user seems I can not find a window for to add some of my want list, have tried: forums, members, add item, want. all dead links. Pity, (sigh!) |
| 8th May 2015, 5:40 PM | #9 REPORT | |
 | zabadak Caddacack oh da ca-caddacack, shy shy skagellack Member since Jun 2010 4156 Points | As for the main topic: I have entered the release dates for all the 78s I have on my database. I noticed that not one of them has the day of release, only the month and year. Why is this, please?  |
| 9th May 2015, 7:23 AM | #10 REPORT | |
| scrough🍰 No picture 'cos I'm not into 45rpm :( Member since Jan 2013 3429 Points Moderator | In the UK, 78s were usually released on a monthly basis. |
| 9th May 2015, 12:29 PM | #11 REPORT | |
| zabadak Caddacack oh da ca-caddacack, shy shy skagellack Member since Jun 2010 4156 Points |
scrough wrote:
In the UK, 78s were usually released on a monthly basis.
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| 11th May 2015, 2:16 PM | #12 REPORT | |
 | Jock_Girl A girl who looks good in vinyl Member since Dec 2012 1544 Points Moderator | Personally I have always wondered about the accuracy of full dates (day month year) when it come to 78s. To a certain extent I see the month as being pretty useless and the day to be a stab in dark -- and in the case of both very hard to substantiate especially given the mists of time. Granted, you may have an ad that says a certain 78 will be in shops on 25 April 1946, but we have no real way to know that this date was actually met. I find it better to go with the year and let the numerical order of the catalogue number give you a sense of when something was issue within the year. Amy |
| 11th May 2015, 9:22 PM | #13 REPORT | |
| zabadak Caddacack oh da ca-caddacack, shy shy skagellack Member since Jun 2010 4156 Points | Ta - I guess it was just more hit-and-miss than with 45s?  |
| 19th May 2015, 6:02 PM | #14 REPORT | |
| Jock_Girl A girl who looks good in vinyl Member since Dec 2012 1544 Points Moderator | Curiously enough we have a situation in the corrections queue where stereotom is challenging the exact release date on Luniverse 102 . I tend to agree, but not sure if we should make the change. I know when I added the record oh so long ago, I only did the year, so someone consciously added the date. Research seems to show that as being questionable Thoughts Amy |
| 19th May 2015, 11:32 PM | #15 REPORT | |
| scrough🍰 No picture 'cos I'm not into 45rpm :( Member since Jan 2013 3429 Points Moderator | To clarify - many USA 78rpms seem to have been released more than once a month. If someone supplies an exact day, then we mods have to accept it. But if it later proves false then we can change it. The exact day was supplied by Break-In Master, so perhaps they'd like to chip in here? |
| 20th May 2015, 1:14 PM | #16 REPORT | |
| fixbutte Member since Jan 2013 1483 Points Moderator | I doubt Break-In master's "exact" release dates because he doesn't refer to a consistent and verifiable basis, see my earlier correspondence on 45cat: Quote:
Break-In master
7th Oct 2014, 1:44 AM RE: Release Dates It's hard to say, in some cases, the dates come from Reg Bartlette, who KNOWS the release dates of lots of records, I also have an old version of Joel Whitburn's Pop Annual that lists the release date of all the records in the book (NOT just the top 20, like his new books). Having the Delta numbers helps a lot, too. Otherwise, I've had LOTS of various sources and it'd be impossible to say where I got each and every date. I'm not doing JUST Aladdin, though, it's just that that's where I started the other day (after doing Combo). If I have the time, I'll get to LOTS of other labels, too. Hope this helps. BIM ==== fixbutte wrote ==== Thanks, Break-In master, for specifying the release dates of some Aladdin records, all looking very reasonable. Before correcting them like that on the database, however, it would be nice to know where you found them. Cheers, fixbutte (Cornelius). With regard to the specific issue which was reviewed in Billboard of Oct 20, 1956, I tend to change to the release date to October 1956. In contrast to stereotom I don't suspect it was released a few weeks before the review because the group's previous single (Luniverse 101) was still in the charts at the end of Sep 1956. |
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