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  19th Sep 2015, 1:06 PM#1  REPORT  
JPGR&B SUBS

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Register your UK or USA copy at The White Album registry.


  19th Sep 2015, 1:14 PM#2  REPORT  
TopPopper

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Interesting project. That guy who only collects White Albums needs to get registering all of his! I think he established that the numbering system had a gap at one point, where a certain run of numbers was not used - no-one seems to know why.

There must be millions of copies out there - the trouble is the data they get in will go out of date as people move around or pass on their copies.


  19th Sep 2015, 1:18 PM#3  REPORT  
JPGR&B SUBS

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I hadn't heard about a person who only collects copies of The White Album!


  19th Sep 2015, 1:37 PM#4  REPORT  
TopPopper

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Here he is. Madman or genius? You decide!


  19th Sep 2015, 2:51 PM#5  REPORT  
JPGR&B SUBS

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Wow. Thanls for that. Weird. I'll contact him though to see if he will add these to The White Album registry.


  21st Sep 2015, 7:15 AM#6  REPORT  
Neil Forbes

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Only if that's all "white" by him! :heehee:


  21st Sep 2015, 11:52 AM#7  REPORT  
Magic Marmalade

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Well at least that explains why I can't find a bloomin' White album myself! :angry:

But this does serve to illustrate a point:

There is a difference between Real, and Apparent rarity...

If not many of a given item (Album, single, or CD etc.) were actually made, mainly due to lack of commercial interest from the public, but they are all in constant market circulation, this can give the impression that they may exist in greater numbers than is actually the case, but if a given title was made, and exists in vast quantities, but some git buys them all up and stashes them away from the market place due to whatever underlying psychological neurosis they may have, they can create a "market rarity", and through this, drive the price of those that do exist way up above perhaps, what a more natural circulation would support.

So if you own a White album, this flump is doing you a favour, by adding value through "rarity" to your copy (assuming of course, you intend to realise that value at some point), but the rest of us have to pay through the nose as a result, if we really want one.

But of course, I'm only bitter because I don't have one (soon as I do, I'll add him to my Christmas card list! :grin: )

However, it does afford the opportunity for me to point out also, a phenomenon I've observed on both ebay, and amazon, which comes from this:

There are a few dolphins on ebay ("flippers"), who buy, then immediately sell at a mark up, but through this, give the impression of there being more copies of a given title available than there actually are... a fair portion of the listings of titles that generate interest are likely the same copies going through the market again and again.

Likewise, I've been keeping tabs on a couple of items on Amazon, and noticed that the "in stock", and then the count down of how many are "left in stock" seems to correspond remarkably to how many begin to appear in the "used & new" listings in Amazon marketplace for those titles.

Basically, it seems that Amazon uses it's power to bulk buy such stock (probably at a discount), and sell at a knock down price (maybe even making a loss) which no independent seller can compete with, but that lately these small sellers have apparently worked out that they just buy their stock from amazon stock itself, at this lower price, then relist it at a slightly higher price...

,,,Amazon doesn't care, as it gets the sales either direct to the customer, or through these re-listers, and it charges them to list the items, which probably offsets any lack of profit, or even loss they make through the original sale - cunning eh! -

Lord knows what this does to their tax situation regarding these sales!

Anyway, I shall console myself with the fact that I have singles copies of a few double albums that are significantly better than the white album (And besides, Revolver is The Beatles best album anyway, and so far it doesn't seem like anyone is hoarding those!)


  21st Sep 2015, 5:03 PM#8  REPORT  
Quad5point1 SUBS

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Unless of course it's a 606-1


  21st Sep 2015, 6:21 PM#9  REPORT  
TopPopper

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By no means would I describe the album as rare - just looked on Ebay and under "records" there are 156 for sale although of course, not all of them are the numbered originals. The most expensive one today is numbered 00000091 and the seller wants £5,000.


  21st Sep 2015, 6:51 PM#10  REPORT  
Jock_Girl

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TopPopper wrote:
The most expensive one today is numbered 00000091 and the seller wants £5,000.

I wonder what number 910 would go for (the one after 909 -- geddit?)

Amy


  22nd Sep 2015, 1:50 AM#11  REPORT  
Neil Forbes

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Jock_Girl wrote:
TopPopper wrote:
The most expensive one today is numbered 00000091 and the seller wants £5,000.

I wonder what number 910 would go for (the one after 909 -- geddit?)

Amy

Ooooo, cheeky girl! :heehee:


  22nd Sep 2015, 10:35 AM#12  REPORT  
Magic Marmalade

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TopPopper wrote:
By no means would I describe the album as rare - just looked on Ebay and under "records" there are 156 for sale although of course, not all of them are the numbered originals. The most expensive one today is numbered 00000091 and the seller wants £5,000.

Do you think anyone will let me have a numbered copy for a quid? :grin:

...how about £2?

Hell, I'd even go as far as a tenner for it!

But for five grand I could get five thousand other records, most of which would probably be better than the White Album.

(I'm determined to ruffle some Beatle-fan feathers here! :laugh: )


  22nd Sep 2015, 10:39 AM#13  REPORT  
Magic Marmalade

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Incidentally, what happens if this chap achieves even ten thousand for his collection, then has a fire that destroys them all?

(wonder what his insurance for these is).


  22nd Sep 2015, 11:03 AM#14  REPORT  
An6y66

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TopPopper wrote:
The most expensive one today is numbered 00000091 and the seller wants £5,000.

Any guesses on what Ringo's personal copy numbered No.000001 will fetch when it goes on sale later this year then?

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_RINGO_STARR_AUCTION?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT


  22nd Sep 2015, 9:58 PM#15  REPORT  
TopPopper

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I'm surprised to think that I have never once heard a rumour that someone was making their own number stamps - turn a £30 LP into a £500 LP by stamping 00000845 on it.


  23rd Sep 2015, 7:38 AM#16  REPORT  
Neil Forbes

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Then there's the matter of different countries - different catalogue numbers, particularly those Euro numbers = XC-XXX XXXXX(The X's are for number variants). How would they be individually numbered?


  23rd Sep 2015, 11:42 AM#17  REPORT  
Record Collector

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As I been following the Beatles nearly for thirty five years I always wondered if the album was unplanned


  23rd Sep 2015, 1:19 PM#18  REPORT  
getalife

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Any of us registered on this?, is it worth it?, if so how do you log on for the first time? No 0318430


  23rd Sep 2015, 2:02 PM#19  REPORT  
jordansongs🍰

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It only takes a couple of minutes to register to the site and then add the details of your copy. Not sure how interesting all the stats are though!


  23rd Sep 2015, 2:31 PM#20  REPORT  
getalife

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jordansongs wrote:
It only takes a couple of minutes to register to the site and then add the details of your copy. Not sure how interesting all the stats are though!




Edited by getalife on 23rd Sep 2015, 2:44 PM

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