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  6th Nov 2015, 1:22 PM#1  REPORT  
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  7th Nov 2015, 11:55 PM#2  REPORT  
neil86

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I have books with 9 digit ISBN (prefixed by zero) eg. 0-441 -34254 which doesn't seem to be searchable in the oclc website. I leave the hyphens out but no returns. Can you help me ?


  8th Nov 2015, 8:56 AM#3  REPORT  
nboldock

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neil86 wrote:
I have books with 9 digit ISBN (prefixed by zero) eg. 0-441 -34254 which doesn't seem to be searchable in the oclc website. I leave the hyphens out but no returns. Can you help me ?

They should be 10 or 13 digits/characters long. Can you post one up and let us see an example?


  8th Nov 2015, 9:32 AM#4  REPORT  
TopPopper

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If you copy and paste either an ISBN number (no spaces or digits) or the barcode number (no spaces or digits) into Google, it will bring back the book - so it's a handy way of checking. I tried the nine digits and nothing showed, so I think, if it does literally say just that, it's possibly a printing error. In any case, as nboldock says, an example would be great - you can load a book up now without the ISBN number typed in, and when we get to the bottom of it, it can be added.


  8th Nov 2015, 10:30 AM#5  REPORT  
neil86

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Unfortunately my book cover is a bit ragged so I have scanned the inside page of acknowledgements. Can I send this photo to you. I looked up the book on a book seller site and the ISBN has been changed to 0-441-342531. The book was published in 1974 and has an ISBN 0-441-34254. Were the numbers always 10 and 13 digits ?


  8th Nov 2015, 2:08 PM#6  REPORT  
TopPopper

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No need, I just did some checking and found this on good old Wikipedia:

"The initial ISBN configuration of recognition was generated in 1967 based upon the 9-digit Standard Book Numbering (SBN) created in 1966. The 10-digit ISBN format was developed by the International Organization for Standardization (ISO) and was published in 1970 as international standard ISO 2108 (the SBN code can be converted to a ten digit ISBN by prefixing it with a zero)."

and

"An SBN may be converted to an ISBN by prefixing the digit "0". For example, the second edition of Mr. J. G Reeder Returns published by Hodder in 1965 has "SBN 340 01381 8" - 340 indicating the publisher, 01381 their serial number, and 8 being the check digit, this can be converted to ISBN 0-340-01381-8, the check digit does not need to be re-calculated."

So, 9-digit numbers do exist and can be converted to 10 digits. In your case, putting a zero at the front creates the number 0044134254. Google doesn't find it, but that's all you need to do, I think.




  10th Nov 2015, 10:05 PM#7  REPORT  
LouisSidney

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The language is missing in some cases, there for instance: English.


  10th Nov 2015, 11:31 PM#8  REPORT  
Scratchy45

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<The language is missing in some cases, there for instance: English.>

8798061305 is the ISBN I found on ABEBooks for another JEE edition of this book, which starts with an 87 Denmark prefix. 8998061315 seems rather too close to that for comfort....

The prefix may indicate a territory rather than a language, from what I remember, and ISBNs, when I was familiar with them, were issued by the body holding the ISBN agency for a specific territory.

As publishers had to pay for tranches of ISBN numbers to assign to their books, all kinds of weird and wonderful things went on, like re-use of ISBNS rather than paying out for more!


  11th Nov 2015, 9:41 AM#9  REPORT  
LouisSidney

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What I mean is: Language is missing in Book World, it doesn't appear on the page (I wasn't talking about the publication itself!)


  11th Nov 2015, 5:25 PM#10  REPORT  
Orbiting Cat

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At the moment the language is not shown if it is English.


  11th Nov 2015, 7:25 PM#11  REPORT  
Scratchy45

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LouisSidney wrote:
What I mean is: Language is missing in Book World, it doesn't appear on the page (I wasn't talking about the publication itself!)

Sorry! I completely misunderstood ,LouisSidney.


  11th Nov 2015, 8:49 PM#12  REPORT  
LouisSidney

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It doesn't appear there either, albeit correctly computed in the statistics: Walloon.


  15th Nov 2015, 9:22 PM#13  REPORT  
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The guide to adding images page is missing (page not found).


  15th Nov 2015, 9:23 PM#14  REPORT  
musictom SUBS

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This record will not accept the class number: 781.643097309045. Looked up in Classify.


  5th Dec 2015, 4:40 AM#15  REPORT  
Tailspin

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I have a couple books where the class number found at http://classify.oclc.org/classify2/ is not accepted.
So far no one has come to the rescue with a solution. Is it because the the result is too many characters? Perhaps field needs to be modified to allow larger results [more characters].


  5th Dec 2015, 3:52 PM#16  REPORT  
Orbiting Cat

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Tailspin wrote:
I have a couple books where the class number found at http://classify.oclc.org/classify2/ is not accepted.
So far no one has come to the rescue with a solution. Is it because the the result is too many characters? Perhaps field needs to be modified to allow larger results [more characters].

I'm convinced that those extra-long classifications are an aberration in OCLC, but anyway I've changed 45worlds so that it now accepts them!


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