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Mojo and Uncut Domestic - International Barcodes Don't Match

21st Dec 2016, 11:08 PM		#1 REPORT
	Lee Wrecker If you can't dig me, you can't dig nothin' Member since Nov 2013 2282 Points	Well, It seems or is the case that Mojo and Uncut sometimes use different Barcodes for domestic and international versions of their magazines. See here and here, and conversely sometimes they use the same barcode as in this case. This is a problem that 45Worlds is ill equipped to deal with and has confused the hell out of me. Any ideas on how to approach this scenario it is a curly one? See my comments here for further explanation. Edited by Lee Wrecker on 22nd Dec 2016, 1:16 AM

23rd Dec 2016, 7:46 AM		#2 REPORT
	Dr Doom SUBS I wanna eat an artichoke once in a while Member since Feb 2008 25094 Points Administrator	I think as you say it's a can of worms that might be best not opened. We can add the additional barcodes to notes and mention that there are UK and Export editions - something like that?

23rd Dec 2016, 9:52 AM		#3 REPORT
	Lee Wrecker If you can't dig me, you can't dig nothin' Member since Nov 2013 2282 Points	Thank you Dr. Doom for taking the time to read my post thoroughly and also for coming to the same conclusion in that this is an issue we quite frankly can't deal with. However, 45Worlds members from the southern hemisphere are running into problems like these all over the site. When I first raised the issues that are now plainly apparent (see links in my first post below) when I was entering CDs from these magazines a year or so ago I was roundly brushed off and told I just don't understand by many MODS and 45Worlders in the northern hemisphere. Now that I have produced the evidence that these Magazines and CDs are not correctly listed at all, it's all too hard to deal with.We, in this case Canadians, Americans, Australians and anyone else from around the world have to own UK issues of known international releases and have our measly barcodes tacked on in the notes. Intentional or not this scenario smacks of a deadly case of Anglophilia to me. It can be very frustrating for users, particularly those from outside the UK and USA to find their locally made products internationalised at the drop of a hat and then conversely see the iron curtain go up when we present hard evidence in regard to making European or USA releases international. I have been thinking about these problems for a while and was, until I saw this situation, close to having something nutted out for discussion. However, my ideas were based on using the current site design but having come across this conundrum I think changing the site design will need to be integral to finding a solution to the problems we're facing. This is something I know nothing about (well that hasn't stopped him before I hear whispering through cyberspace) so I think we may need to develop some parameters of what is possible not only in guidelines but design capabilities as well. I do agree though that for the moment this issue is best left well alone but would hasten to add it should be front and centre when we get the ball rolling to discuss how we can improve the entry problems we're currently facing across the site. Encountering the fiasco outlined in my first post really caught me by surprise and sent me for a loop. Now where is my thinking cap? If anyone has ideas or thoughts that they think may be useful or need consideration feel free to put them forward. Once again thanks for giving this due consideration Dr Doom.

27th Dec 2016, 4:18 PM		#4 REPORT
	nboldock Lend me ten pounds and I'll buy you a drink. Member since Feb 2012 7132 Points Moderator	Lee, your concerns certainly haven't been ignored and we have the mother of all threads on the mod forum discussing this very thing. The fact is there's no immediate, easy solution, and I know it's a longstanding issue, but please don't think you're being ignored - that's absolutely not the case.

28th Dec 2016, 12:45 AM		#5 REPORT
	Lee Wrecker If you can't dig me, you can't dig nothin' Member since Nov 2013 2282 Points	Thanks nboldock, I know you're all working on this problem but it still does surprise me when new manifestations of it appear out of nowhere. Just when I thought I'd got my head round it unfortunately. I'll still post something soon to try and start a pathway through the maze and hopefully set some sensible (wot's that Captain?) ground rules for these issues. My feeling is we can't even address the problems until we're singing from the same sheet and at the moment we're not. So I think we need to start there.

28th Dec 2016, 12:53 PM		#6 REPORT
	TheJudge In-house specialist in drive-by moddings. Member since Dec 2012 3714 Points Moderator	It's worth bearing in mind a general point (and no criticism intended here, Lee) that this site - like 45cat - has grown incrementally over a period of a few years, and it was always likely to be the case that scenarios of various sorts would develop which would call into question the way we had been doing things up to that point. What we actually do to resolve these issues can be complicated by both the potential to cause further problems somewhere down the line, or by the need to avoid too radical a re-working of what is already in place. The best we can hope for is to collaborate on any solutions and try to be as consistent as we can without our ending up with our heads up our fundaments.

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