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| 4th Mar 2017, 12:14 AM | #1 REPORT | |
 | Shamanator Member since Apr 2016 10 Points | I was curious how I can find out the year a record was released on the Esquire label. I know that the recording date is at the 6 o'clock position on the label...but when was the record pressed? For example, this Dizzy Gillespie record was recorded in 1946, but according to Redpunk (who I would trust!), it was released in 1949. Thanks |
| 4th Mar 2017, 9:09 AM | #2 REPORT | |
 | sladesounds Turning rebellion into money since 1962 Member since Nov 2009 6566 Points Moderator | The recording was originally released on the US label Dial which is listed on this site as being in 1946. For the record I hunted around a bit on t'net and it seems that that the Esquire label was founded by Carlo Krahmer and Peter Newbrook late 1947. So maybe (only maybe) 1948 might be a closer release year given this record is a fairly low number in the labels releases. |
| 4th Mar 2017, 2:41 PM | #3 REPORT | |
| TheJudge In-house specialist in drive-by moddings. Member since Dec 2012 3715 Points Moderator | @sladesounds, As you pointed out on one of the Esquire issues, the label wasn't founded until '47 and yet we had one listed as '45 and another as '46. The cat#s suggested '50 or '51 for the first one and '51 or '52 for the other. I've removed the dates from both of them until we have more solid info. |
| 17th Mar 2017, 3:52 PM | #4 REPORT | |
| Pridesale Member since Mar 2013 805 Points | To some extent with 78s we were going on Recording Dates as much as release dates. As better info comes to light Release Date entry may well be better. |
| 17th Mar 2017, 7:36 PM | #5 REPORT | |
 | xiphophilos Member since Dec 2013 3351 Points Moderator | I've now actually added as many release dates to the Esquire records in our database as can be deducted from the catalog numbers and info on the following sites: https://londonjazzcollector.wordpress.com/record-labels-guide/10-esquire-uk-2/ https://rateyourmusic.com/label/esquire_records/ http://henrybebop.co.uk/krahmer.htm http://henrybebop.co.uk/esquir78.htm |
| 26th Mar 2017, 5:17 PM | #6 REPORT | |
| lorangrecords SUBS (Ulf) Member since Jan 2013 5803 Points Moderator | How trustworthy is Eddie Shaw's Esquire dating of records? I have the catalogue and I'm willing to change from that if no one disagree |
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