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  24th Apr 2017, 9:38 PM#1  REPORT  
confranfan SUBS

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I am trying to get some direction for scanning 12" LP covers. I use an HP laptop with WINDOWS 10. Like many before me, my scanner does not capture the complete cover art. There are thousands of LP covers on the site that have captured the art work perfectly and I would love to know how to do this. Are there tutorials somewhere that clearly show the novice how to do this. I hope to hear from someone soon so I can begin scanning and adding my album covers. Thanks. Rick


  24th Apr 2017, 10:06 PM#2  REPORT  
Magic Marmalade

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Have a look at this.

(Basically, go to Microsoft's Windows site and download ICE (Image Composite Editor)


  25th Apr 2017, 9:01 AM#3  REPORT  
Lee Wrecker

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Hi confranfan and Magic,

You also need Paint.Net for resizing and cutting circles quickly. The link here is for a free download if you should need it. This link used to appear somewhere in the guide to adding images but is not in the guide to adding albums. Perhaps both links should be incorporated into the adding an album guidelines? Anyway, confranfan, these two free programs are enough to do a very good job on albums covers and labels.

If you have any problems just post something here and I'm sure it will be easy to sort out. A couple of hours of practice should be enough to get a handle on it.



  25th Apr 2017, 10:17 PM#4  REPORT  
Juke Jules SUBS

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Yes: use ICE before you edit with Paint dot Net


  26th Apr 2017, 2:03 AM#5  REPORT  
Vinylville

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No scanner here, I photograph.


  1st May 2017, 12:00 AM#6  REPORT  
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I use a low-end Canon scanner and so scan my LP covers in 4 sections, then use ICE to stitch the sections together. I have just a couple of minor suggestions to add to MM's very helpful notes:
- For a given cover, I always scan each section oriented in the same direction. This helps in that the scanner's light is shining at the same angle (mostly) for each section scanned.
- I leave the door open, press down on the cover, and drape a black cloth over it as a backdrop. This provides a consistent background around the edges of the cover.
It's a bit of extra trouble, but I find that ICE has an easier time of it when you eliminate those varying aspects from the images.


  8th May 2017, 12:00 PM#7  REPORT  
W.B.lbl

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For over a decade, I've had an HP scanner which handles legal size (US 8.5" x 14"). Thus I only have to do two rather than four sections of an LP cover to put together. And I have Photoshop at my disposal to handle the seamless combination of the two. (Using erase in airbrush mode doesn't hurt either.)


  8th May 2017, 12:46 PM#8  REPORT  
Orbiting Cat

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Results when scanning/combining images are great.

However you can also photograph the sleeves using a modern smartphone. Most iPhones/Android phones can even take square photos.


  8th May 2017, 10:22 PM#9  REPORT  
Lee Wrecker

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However you can also photograph the sleeves using a modern smartphone. Most iPhones/Android phones can even take square photos.

Not I, I don't have a mobile phone/cellphone OC. I also have never owned a car which is rather strange for an Australian of my vintage. The two things are linked as when I'm walking, I'm usually thinking and don't like to be interrupted. I do take your point though OC and phones can do a good job on covers etc. and are probably more effective on some covers that ICE can't handle The Beatles The Beatles (White album) springs to mind.

Horses for courses, I suppose.


  9th May 2017, 3:41 AM#10  REPORT  
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I simply use an iPad out in direct fairly bright sunlight. Seems to work good.


  9th May 2017, 12:13 PM#11  REPORT  
Juke Jules SUBS

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Direct light is the last thing you need if you are trying to photograph anything shiny, like an LP cover. Bright cloud will give a good photo without significant colour unbalance.


  9th May 2017, 1:13 PM#12  REPORT  
robozuc

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http://lpcoverlover.com/how-to-take-decent-photos-of-record-albums/

Very interesting :read:


  9th May 2017, 2:06 PM#13  REPORT  
Juke Jules SUBS

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The guy is using a tripod and photographing horizontally. I use a copy stand similar to the Rocwing Pro for fast imaging of LPs which allows consistent positioning of the camera. Set at maximum distance to minimise pincushioning.

Stand or tripod, you are still dependent on the ambient light in the room. The colour of the room will tint the image, and the colour will change also with the position of sun or clouds outside. A professional studio would be in a white room with light diffuders and no daylight


  9th May 2017, 2:56 PM#14  REPORT  
robozuc

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In the end I left the camera, now with my A4 scanner + ICE I'll comfortably sit down at the desk, the time it takes is more or less the same but picture quality is great.


  9th May 2017, 3:06 PM#15  REPORT  
Juke Jules SUBS

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As an example of colour imaging see SHSP 4047 which I have just added. The rear cover colour resolution was just too poor when photographed: the sky was clear blue with the sun out of view, and the room decor was predominantly magnolia. That image is now 'hidden' and replaced with one that was scanned and ICE'd. If I don't stitch the halves or quarters of a sleeve with ICE, the joining line is always visible.

I expect you could add the parts without ICE if you use a professional grade scanner like WB's. I am sure I would get better colour resolution photos if I used my best camera on the stand. It is noticeably worse if I use an older digital camera. Must try!


  17th May 2017, 12:54 AM#16  REPORT  
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To Jules: I find that other that pretty bright sunlight produces shadows. I get in the way. You are correct; it can be a challenge for very shiny items. Usually try to catch them on the right angle.


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