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| 30th May 2017, 3:25 PM | #1 REPORT | |
 | HOOK45 SUBS Quality above quantity Member since Feb 2010 42197 Points | Eric Clapton's page is a mess; a lot of double and triple entries. |
| 30th May 2017, 3:52 PM | #2 REPORT | |
 | Magic Marmalade If you're not lost... It's not an adventure! Member since Jun 2014 3774 Points Moderator | There are certainly a couple of doubles there, ...but this is part of an ongoing process I've embarked on of tying up all artist's pages together - adding "see also-s" and psudonyms etc. If I can get them all on one page, I can see where entries are duplicated. Most of the time, duplicates occur, I've found, due to that infernal flag issue, someone add a CD as UK, and then someone else will add one as Europe, seeing as they bought it outside the UK (In Europe), the someone in U.S. might add it, and so call it "international" due to it's availability there. "Ah I have that one, but it's not just a U.K one... I'll add it as Europe etc." Although I have found that once I've gotten all of a given artist's releases together like this, even if many appear to be identical, more often than not, if you look a little closer, there is some minor distinguishing feature in the entry itself from the others it is apparently identical with. (I haven't gotten round to going through Eric Clapton's page yet and modding entry by entry - this morning was The Who, and today shall be associated - Townshend, Moon, Daltrey, Entwistle.) It'll take me a little time to cut it all down to size, so please be patient with me :) |
| 30th May 2017, 3:57 PM | #3 REPORT | |
| HOOK45 SUBS Quality above quantity Member since Feb 2010 42197 Points | Well, if one catalogue number (of the same label) is 123456789 and the other is 123 456 789, they are identical. |
| 30th May 2017, 4:07 PM | #4 REPORT | |
| Magic Marmalade If you're not lost... It's not an adventure! Member since Jun 2014 3774 Points Moderator | Absolutely, ...unless the barcode differs, or the label, or the country - Aus uses the same cats as Europe a lot of the time. (that's not to say that this particular one you mentioned isn't a duplicate, it's just I, and the other mods haven't gotten around to dealing with that one yet... so just a little patience is required)  |
| 30th May 2017, 4:16 PM | #5 REPORT | |
 | Juke Jules SUBS Tell me he's lazy, tell me he's slow Member since Jan 2011 4151 Points Moderator | I am adding all the various collaborations to the main Eric Clapton discography, which may help to see the duplicates Not sure about this one - anybody? Various Artists (Original Score Performed By Eric Clapton) |
| 30th May 2017, 4:17 PM | #6 REPORT | |
| Magic Marmalade If you're not lost... It's not an adventure! Member since Jun 2014 3774 Points Moderator | add as a pseudo for Clapton I'd say... and anyone else appearing on that album. |
| 30th May 2017, 4:29 PM | #7 REPORT | |
 | sladesounds Turning rebellion into money since 1962 Member since Nov 2009 6576 Points Moderator |
Juke Jules wrote:
I am adding all the various collaborations to the main Eric Clapton discography, which may help to see the duplicates
Not sure about this one - anybody? Various Artists (Original Score Performed By Eric Clapton) I'll sort it now with the information that is available on the web. Case scans are here. I have listed it as Various Artists but given that 14 from 18 are Eric perhaps we could list it under just his name (?) http://www.45worlds.com/cdalbum/cd/7912412 |
| 30th May 2017, 4:55 PM | #8 REPORT | |
| Juke Jules SUBS Tell me he's lazy, tell me he's slow Member since Jan 2011 4151 Points Moderator | Agreed, done. Thanks |
| 30th May 2017, 5:13 PM | #9 REPORT | |
| Magic Marmalade If you're not lost... It's not an adventure! Member since Jun 2014 3774 Points Moderator | Added a couple of the most relevant: See also-s (not only but also-s) to Clapton's page. (which reminds me... Page, Jimmy, Yardbirds... ooh, and Jeff Beck.) |
| 30th May 2017, 5:30 PM | #10 REPORT | |
| Magic Marmalade If you're not lost... It's not an adventure! Member since Jun 2014 3774 Points Moderator | Done. |
| 30th May 2017, 6:10 PM | #11 REPORT | |
 | gregs45s SUBS ● Member since Apr 2012 7614 Points |
HOOK45 wrote:
Well, if one catalogue number (of the same label) is 123456789 and the other is 123 456 789, they are identical.
123456789 is not the same as 123 456 789,or 123-456-789,or 1234 567 8 9 (similar is not identical) these are not just typo's,this has been done purposely,they have been deliberately written that way to differentiate each countries release,and this is one thing i've been trying to get across to people,these differences indicate different releases,and in my opinion,should therefore be recorded separately,however minor the difference in the Cat.No,it's different!,these Cat.No's/secondary Cat.No's are a means of specific identification,if you were to ignore them,then you would have entries with multiple (similar) Cat.No's,with multiple unidentified (currently) images,with people trying to guess what country the entry is,and what image belongs with what,and it would get very messy,especially as each country may have two or three variants each.This is going down the line of just bunging everything together,and is,IMHO,not the way forward for a successful database.Surely better to have these CD's attributed to a specific country,what is the harm in having them separated?,it's easier to find a particular countries release that way.If you're going to bung every albums release together,then a template like Discogs currently uses is surely the only other option?,listing all worldwide releases under the album title,but still having a separate page/link to each individual countries specific release.Anyhow,i digress,but i'm all for keeping CD's individual,as they were released. (PS I only found three duplications on Eric's page (of course i may have missed one;),and have posted corrections) Edited by gregs78s on 30th May 2017, 6:55 PM |
| 30th May 2017, 7:27 PM | #12 REPORT | |
| sladesounds Turning rebellion into money since 1962 Member since Nov 2009 6576 Points Moderator |
Juke Jules wrote:
Agreed, done. Thanks
I think you had a senior moment there - just looked at the entry and saw you had credited it to John Mayall! Never fear I changed it to Eric so no-one will spot the mistake  |
| 30th May 2017, 8:59 PM | #13 REPORT | |
| HOOK45 SUBS Quality above quantity Member since Feb 2010 42197 Points |
gregs78s wrote:
HOOK45 wrote:
Well, if one catalogue number (of the same label) is 123456789 and the other is 123 456 789, they are identical.
123456789 is not the same as 123 456 789,or 123-456-789,or 1234 567 8 9 (similar is not identical) these are not just typo's,this has been done purposely,they have been deliberately written that way to differentiate each countries release,... I assumed it is about the same country issue, obviously. |
| 30th May 2017, 9:26 PM | #14 REPORT | |
| Magic Marmalade If you're not lost... It's not an adventure! Member since Jun 2014 3774 Points Moderator | Another issue is that sometimes, where apparent duplicates exist, one has images, and the other not, and until an image is supplied, there's really no way of knowing if it is identical... if, as in the case Greg mentions, the same numbers, spaced differently, or just mis-keyed on entry. I think we can afford to let those sit for a while until an image shows up, or info is provided that definitively resolves the matter. We'll work around them in the mean time. It is worth remembering that CD worlds (singles and albums) are far from the finished article as they are, and it is probably fair to say they are at the "raw data entry" stage. ...and that knowledge about the format in general is not comprehensive anywhere, not even to the degree that vinyl is. But that's part of what we're doing here I think... working out the issues, and figuring out the scheme of things in a way that you won't find on other websites... We are the pioneers in this field!  (just expect a lot of arguments along the way) |
| 30th May 2017, 11:51 PM | #15 REPORT | |
| Juke Jules SUBS Tell me he's lazy, tell me he's slow Member since Jan 2011 4151 Points Moderator | Thanks Slades I've now completed the 'appearances' on compilation albums Next, vinyl albums anyone?  |
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