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| 31st May 2017, 11:30 PM | #1 REPORT | |
 | ppint. Member since Aug 2012 6452 Points | not now music limited's not now music cds are somewhat scattered and need merging. they're currently listed variously as being on the not now label (uk), not now music (uk), not now music (eu), not now music limited (eu). . . though the situation may change in or a little after 2020, depending on the success of boris "the jackal" johnson's charm^W offence offensive in various of the dreaded ee-yeww!, any cd legally on sale in one eu country cannot be excluded from the distribution systems of all other eu countries - so i think these all qualify as eu, rather than some being uk-only, and others eu: and they all appear to be on "not now music", as that's the wording of the logo. |
| 1st Jun 2017, 12:04 AM | #2 REPORT | |
 | TopPopper Member since Mar 2013 2612 Points | Does it follow that a CD "not excluded from the distribution systems of all other EU countries" is therefore on sale across the continent? If so, there's no such thing as a UK CD at all and every UK CD on this site has to be changed. |
| 1st Jun 2017, 3:08 AM | #3 REPORT | |
 | PhilMH SUBS Member since Jan 2012 1058 Points | Surely it depends on whether or not the company actually has a branch or licensee in other countries, to say whether an item is "distributed" in those places? And to swap ppint's logic around, would a disc from, say, Finland have to be made "Europe" because it says "made in EU"? I would think that there are many releases in European countries that are only available in the home countries of the artists. |
| 1st Jun 2017, 10:04 AM | #4 REPORT | |
 | Dr Doom SUBS I wanna eat an artichoke once in a while Member since Feb 2008 25474 Points Administrator | We're going to make changes to this very soon. Essentially so many CDs are worldwide (or at the least European) releases that having the country is of little importance so we're going to try something else. |
| 1st Jun 2017, 6:13 PM | #5 REPORT | |
| ppint. Member since Aug 2012 6452 Points | toppopper: s/the entire continent/the entire eu/ and, excluding a certain period after a country's joining the eu, granted by negotiation for them to adjust (which differs, or may differ, from industry to industry) - aka to "achieve harmonisation" - (and which may differ from one country's accession to the eu, to the next); and (probably) excluding strictly local issues of recordings which never enter the national distribution system of a country; and - fairly importantly - probably excluding territorial licences issued prior to the relevant country's/ies' accession to the eu; "yes, almost certainly." the system of separating british empire (as was) (including or not including canadada) english-language rights, usalien/merkin (not including or including canadada) english-language rights, yeurppean (n.b. not "eec", "ec" or "eu") english-language rights (often by individual country or grouping of usually smaller countries), and "open market" english-language rights, is a 19th century c.e. system that the world of recorded music inherited from the world of book & pamphlets(including sheet music)-publishing: it worked more-or-less whilst shellac 78s and later vinyl 45 singles, eps & lps remained the dominant format, and relatively cheap to manufacture, but expensive to transport. it started breaking down in the 80s (or late seventies - @philmh can give a firmer date/window), as the industry centralised manufacture, especially of the new cd format which required expensive new plant, but whose products were extremely cheap to produce and to transport: and the licencing of territorial rights to recordings hasn't fully caught up yet - and already cds are becoming at least a secondary format for the distribution of recorded music, if not quite yet obsolescent... - but the strictly one-nation or small group of nations cd does still exist - as do one nation singles and lps - it's part of what makes trying to come up with a good, sufficiently flexible and intelligible 45worlds system for the things so bloody impossible^W^W interesting. . . Edited by ppint. on 1st Jun 2017, 6:45 PM |
| 1st Jun 2017, 9:19 PM | #6 REPORT | |
 | Magic Marmalade If you're not lost... It's not an adventure! Member since Jun 2014 3774 Points Moderator | I think the fact of the matter is that we don't have enough CDs to be able to spot definite patterns yet - more info required - So doing away with the flags for now would help, and allow us to simply fix our eyes on cat barcode based entry, so we know we don't duplicate. One day flags will be able to be applied properly, once there's enough CDs to properly sort through, and assign. But basically, it seems the growth of markets through political changes is the key to understanding them... but this has happend in such a compressed time frame (relatively), that the situation was not the same from one week to the next: new directives (EU), deals made intercontinentally, and crucially, I think the demise of EMI, leading to the gobbling up of everything under one umbrella of the Sony-sphere, which itself, was precipitated / exacerbated by the arrival MP3s, the financial crash. In truth, there is probably not a human being alive who knows what has taken place over the last thirty or so years, or can make a single coherent logic apply to CDs. But we may be able to do that here, in reverse, track these political, economic changes by means of the CDs... we just need more data. |
| 2nd Jun 2017, 2:42 PM | #7 REPORT | |
 | nboldock Lend me ten pounds and I'll buy you a drink. Member since Feb 2012 7281 Points Moderator | I do hope we're not doing away with country ID completely...soon find out I suppose! |
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