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| 7th Jun 2017, 4:08 PM | #1 REPORT | |
 | lorangrecords SUBS (Ulf) Member since Jan 2013 5803 Points Moderator | Hello The composers for this entry, are not "as on label", but correct according to the inner cover back. Is this ok, or shall it be changed to "as on label"? Thanks |
| 7th Jun 2017, 6:01 PM | #2 REPORT | |
 | TopPopper Member since Mar 2013 2612 Points | As on label, although we don't seem to have scans of them. |
| 7th Jun 2017, 7:26 PM | #3 REPORT | |
 | sladesounds Turning rebellion into money since 1962 Member since Nov 2009 6566 Points Moderator | I think that the correct composer credits should be shown with "notes" on the entry to state that the label shows incorrect information but the cover scans show the correct listing. |
| 8th Jun 2017, 12:23 PM | #4 REPORT | |
| lorangrecords SUBS (Ulf) Member since Jan 2013 5803 Points Moderator | Thanks guys. Maybe I mislead you a bit with question. On back cover the composers are shown in their full names, but on the label, there are only their family names stated. |
| 8th Jun 2017, 12:27 PM | #5 REPORT | |
| lorangrecords SUBS (Ulf) Member since Jan 2013 5803 Points Moderator | I have the record in hand, and I'm willing to change the composers names to "as on label" if your meaning is so. I can't add any images so far, because my new scanner and my computer don't talk to each other yet. |
| 8th Jun 2017, 12:42 PM | #6 REPORT | |
 | Redpunk SUBS Crates Are For Digging Member since Aug 2012 25322 Points Moderator | If the full names are on the sleeve that's fine leave the full names the ruling has always been sleeve or label whichever has the most accurate details. The label only rule on details started on 45cat whereas on LP's the details are sometimes only on the sleeve. |
| 8th Jun 2017, 4:16 PM | #7 REPORT | |
| lorangrecords SUBS (Ulf) Member since Jan 2013 5803 Points Moderator | Can't say that I agree with the following comment "on LP's the details are sometimes only on the sleeve". But I still think that what's written on the label is prio 1. |
| 8th Jun 2017, 4:43 PM | #8 REPORT | |
| Redpunk SUBS Crates Are For Digging Member since Aug 2012 25322 Points Moderator | After a quick look in my collection here's one where the composers are on the sleeve not the label TXR-2704. To ignore what's on the sleeve when it is part of the whole LP package is in my opinion a too rigid approach. Remember the ethos of the site is guidelines not rigid rules. Let commonsense prevail. |
| 8th Jun 2017, 7:15 PM | #9 REPORT | |
| TopPopper Member since Mar 2013 2612 Points | The guideline has always been to go by what's printed on the label. |
| 8th Jun 2017, 7:47 PM | #10 REPORT | |
| sladesounds Turning rebellion into money since 1962 Member since Nov 2009 6566 Points Moderator |
Redpunk wrote:
To ignore what's on the sleeve when it is part of the whole LP package is in my opinion a too rigid approach.
Remember the ethos of the site is guidelines not rigid rules. Let commonsense prevail.  |
| 9th Jun 2017, 1:26 AM | #11 REPORT | |
 | The_Vinyl_Junkie SUBS My body is on the diminishing streak. Member since Dec 2011 8082 Points Moderator |
sladesounds wrote:
Redpunk wrote:
To ignore what's on the sleeve when it is part of the whole LP package is in my opinion a too rigid approach.
Remember the ethos of the site is guidelines not rigid rules. Let commonsense prevail. |
| 9th Jun 2017, 10:26 AM | #12 REPORT | |
| fixbutte Member since Jan 2013 1483 Points Moderator | There's an essential difference between singles with only one song on each side and LPs with up to 12 songs on each side and by far less space on the labels for detailed credits for each song. In addition, LPs in contrast to singles always came with covers with the opportunity to house much more information including complete composer credits. Thus I can only agree with those who say the most accurate information first. There may be cases of doubt though when label and cover information is contradictory. |
| 9th Jun 2017, 11:46 AM | #13 REPORT | |
| Hawkmarty SUBS Do You Like It Here Now Member since Dec 2012 3050 Points Moderator | "There may be cases of doubt though when label and cover information is contradictory.". In these cases I will put what is on the label and add the contradictory information in the notes - stating where it came from (sleeve, inner sleeve etc). |
| 15th Jun 2017, 7:31 PM | #14 REPORT | |
| lorangrecords SUBS (Ulf) Member since Jan 2013 5803 Points Moderator | I think this discussion is leaving the subject a little. The only question meant to be answered, was how to handle the composers names. So back to basic. I think that "as on label" is mandatory for the composers, and full names can easily be given in the notes. Thanks |
| 15th Jun 2017, 9:55 PM | #15 REPORT | |
| Redpunk SUBS Crates Are For Digging Member since Aug 2012 25322 Points Moderator | I think you will find the consensus was the opposite view. |
| 16th Jun 2017, 12:39 AM | #16 REPORT | |
 | Juke Jules SUBS Tell me he's lazy, tell me he's slow Member since Jan 2011 4138 Points Moderator | I correct artist typos when I see them, for two reasons: if the label says for example that one track on a compilation is by Elvis Pressley you want to see that track in the Presley discography so correcting the entry is the simple way to achieve this. Some poor soul is going to click on this artist to see what else they have done that's as fantastic as That's All Right and they'll be thinking "I'm sure this guy was famous but he's only got one track etc etc" Also you don't want an incorrect name to be selected from the drop-down menu next time someone is entering a record. That happens a lot with some artists (though not so much with Elvis)  |
| 16th Jun 2017, 9:34 AM | #17 REPORT | |
| lorangrecords SUBS (Ulf) Member since Jan 2013 5803 Points Moderator | OK I will go for that too then, but why is it so important to have "as on label" at 45cat and not here? Does not sound logical. End of the discussion I believe. Thanks. |
| 16th Jun 2017, 9:20 PM | #18 REPORT | |
| ppint. Member since Aug 2012 6397 Points | perfectly logical. |
| 17th Jun 2017, 12:48 PM | #19 REPORT | |
 | leonard BLANK Member since Jun 2011 45547 Points Moderator | Most of the errors made are on labels I think. Although in many cases sleeves are lost first the correct cat# and album title are on the sleeves and/or spine. That's how an album is known, not what's printed on the labels. With Philips, Decca, Polydor etc. double albums have 3 "cat" numbers: one on the sleeve (that's the right one to use) and one on each record (which are additional cat#). It seems stupid to me to withhold any information that's given on the record. If the writers.are given on the backsteeve as W. Riter, and on the label as Riter I would choose the first one. THere are lot of Jones's and at least Q. Jones will give a clue. |
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