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  19th Mar 2019, 10:37 AM#1  REPORT  
Steve1966

Member since Dec 2012
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I have a number of 78 EPs from 1955-56 ish. Are these likely to be vinyl rather than shellac due to the fact each side is approx. 6 minutes long (3 songs) and therefore I assume microgroove rather than standard 78 wide groove?


  24th Mar 2019, 1:49 PM#2  REPORT  
Pridesale

Member since Mar 2013
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If you add them here and we can see what label they are on, I dont think 78 world cares what the physical disc composition actually is (unless its cardboard by way of note or acetate, which tend to be internal company use).

But as a follow-up is there concern on these as to what form of stylus is required for playback - if they are from your own family it could be a lightweight pick-up (sapphire stylus) was used on a correct type of deck, but if s/h they could have come from a place that used the original steel or fibre needles which I don't think can be used on micro-groove records.

I have UK His Master's Voice 10in Shellacs which do have multiple tracks on (sound effects), and the grooves seem narrow but I am sure it is a standard '78'. Reading the literature from the 1940s I am confused as to what the best player and tone arm set set up is for causing least damage to either type of 78 rotational speed discs.

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  25th Mar 2019, 12:24 PM#3  REPORT  
Steve1966

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Hi Pridesale. The EPs are these. I have about 10 and all were bought second hand.


  31st Mar 2019, 8:05 PM#4  REPORT  
xiphophilos

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Are your records hard, heavy, and fragile (= shellac) or light-weight and bendable (= vinyl)? In any case, since they are 78s, I would guess that they were made to be played with 78 rpm (macro-groove) styluses. I don't know that I would play them on wind-up gramophones with their heavy tone arms, but a more modern record player that plays 78 speed and has a 78 rpm stylus should do.


  19th Apr 2019, 12:06 PM#5  REPORT  
Fokeman

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Steve1966 wrote:
and therefore I assume microgroove rather than standard 78 wide groove?

I'm not the greatest expert on 78 discs, but I would be extremely surprised if they created a 78rpm disc and then made it microgroove. It's more or less the definition of 78s that they have the wide groove which require a specific stylus. At any rate in the early days of Microgroove, they would, without exception, indicate it on the label.


  19th Apr 2019, 11:57 PM#6  REPORT  
Jock_Girl

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I play mine with the 78 stylus.

That said -- you have a rather rare and unique item in this one

Top Hits Of The Month Record Club EMO 9

as the track Strange Lady in Town is one of the first recordings done by Matt Monro! Yep -- as a sound-a-like session man.

I have it on the Canadian counterpart

Top Hits Of The Month Record Club MO-57

Amy


  24th May 2019, 7:37 AM#7  REPORT  
Steve1966

Member since Dec 2012
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Hi Amy, just seen your reply and message. Apologies. Yes I am aware that it is Matt Monro and that is the reason why I have EMO9 and so many of the others. I believe it is likely that Matt recorded more than this single track so keep searching hoping to find another song by him in this series. So far without luck..

Steve.


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