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| 31st Mar 2019, 7:32 PM | #1 REPORT | |
 | hiphoptwo HIPHOPTWO Member since Oct 2013 25 Points | anyone remember what price they sold for, something like 12 shillings and six pence I think |
| 31st Mar 2019, 11:13 PM | #2 REPORT | |
 | KeithS SUBS Member since Dec 2009 12492 Points Moderator | Pye's Golden Guinea LP's were 21/-.. (one pound one shilling) a guinea in fact Marble Arch was reported in Billboard in 1966 as costing 1.75 dollars....40% of the cost of a normal LP....in those days that would work out as 12/6 Seems cheap, does that sound right?? Edited by KeithS on 31st Mar 2019, 11:34 PM |
| 1st Apr 2019, 12:31 AM | #3 REPORT | |
| scrough No picture 'cos I'm not into 45rpm :( Member since Jan 2013 3425 Points Moderator | In the mid 1960s a normal full price LP cost 32/6d (~£1.62) e.g Rolling Stones 1st, with 7" singles at 6/8d (~£0.33). Golden Guineas started about 7 years before this, and were followed by more even cheaper LPs. 12/6 seems about right. |
| 1st Apr 2019, 8:14 AM | #4 REPORT | |
 | TopPopper Member since Mar 2013 2612 Points | They may have changed over time, of course. The label was active for three or four years. I don't know the answer, but one of their direct rivals in the budget LP field was mfp - Music For Pleasure - and they helpfully incorporated the retail price into their artwork. They range from 12/6 to 14/6, with the same LP sometimes having more than one price. So far as the Hallmark Top of the Pops LPs go, they tended to range from 13/11 to 14/6 in the late-1960s, and 77p after decimalisation. |
| 4th Apr 2019, 11:44 PM | #5 REPORT | |
| Railmaster London Member since Feb 2019 68 Points | Price would in part be affected by changes in Purchase Tax (VAT was relatively stable when introduced in 1972?) |
| 5th Apr 2019, 12:46 PM | #6 REPORT | |
 | zabadak Caddacack oh da ca-caddacack, shy shy skagellack Member since Jun 2010 4156 Points |
TopPopper wrote:
They may have changed over time, of course. The label was active for three or four years.
I don't know the answer, but one of their direct rivals in the budget LP field was mfp - Music For Pleasure - and they helpfully incorporated the retail price into their artwork. They range from 12/6 to 14/6, with the same LP sometimes having more than one price. So far as the Hallmark Top of the Pops LPs go, they tended to range from 13/11 to 14/6 in the late-1960s, and 77p after decimalisation.  |
| 5th Apr 2019, 5:10 PM | #7 REPORT | |
| ppint. Member since Aug 2012 6393 Points | mfp was not in origin, nor for quite a while, a subsidiary of emi/hmv/etc: it was set up by paul hamlyn, he of hamlyn cookery books, hamlyn colour paperback guides, etc. and obtained uk rights to recordings from pretty much every- & anywhere it could, including a large range of cheap merkin classical & light orchestral recordings. only some, very limited access to recordings from emi's vaults was initially afforded - materiel in which emi's own label managers had ceased to have an interest. iirc it was 50% owned by, and controlled by, paul hamlyn, later the hamlyn group, and 50% owned by, and partly distributed by emi/the gramophone (record) company/hmv ltd. - but mfp (including cfp) ran its own warehousing, distribution and accounts centre. emi quite a lot later bought out the 50% they did not initially own. Edited by ppint. on 6th Apr 2019, 1:18 AM |
| 5th Apr 2019, 6:29 PM | #8 REPORT | |
| Railmaster London Member since Feb 2019 68 Points | I think technically accounting for 50% is a subsidary. though not a wholly-owned subsidary - and not as we colloqually use subsidary label in conversation here. With MFP licensing from a number of sources- and creating its own cover versions too and I think commissioning its own orchestral and light pops from EMI and other contracted artists sometimes under fake names but I always got the idea within the record shops and chain store outlets it was EMI taking the promotion lead and presumably it had more clout to the public and the retailer not exactly hiding the relationship with EMI. |
| 6th Apr 2019, 12:28 PM | #9 REPORT | |
| ppint. Member since Aug 2012 6393 Points | pye records ran their 'marble arch' budget label from some time in 1965 through at least mid-1971: so, for five years - or a little over. |
| 6th Apr 2019, 3:10 PM | #10 REPORT | |
| zabadak Caddacack oh da ca-caddacack, shy shy skagellack Member since Jun 2010 4156 Points | I am a fan of their Golden Hour series  |
| 6th Apr 2019, 9:56 PM | #11 REPORT | |
| TopPopper Member since Mar 2013 2612 Points | There were actually three recognised price points in the late-1960s. Albums priced less than regular albums, but sold at more than 15 shillings were considered 'budget albums' for the purposes of the budget album chart (yes, such a thing did exist). Anything below 15 shillings was disregarded, and ineligible for any chart. Really, the albums from 15 shillings up to regular should have been called mid-price albums, because a genuine budget album chart was introduced by Record Retailer in 1970, which included all the cheapos previously excluded. So, regular - mid-price - budget is a more realistic take on things. In the case of Pye, I guess you would have Pye as the regular price, Golden Hour as the mid-price, and Marble Arch as the budget label. |
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