Have you ever picked up an album, still sealed and brand new, and then got it home only to find out it was the the right cover but had the wrong record inside?
Back in the `70's, I was at the local K-Mart looking at their albums and found an album by the Bonzo Dog Band: "Make Up And Be Friendly". At the time, I knew they were partially associated with Monty Python and were a very funny group. I plunked down my $4.00 and change (that was EXPENSIVE back then!!) and took it home. Upon cracking the seal on it, I pulled out the album and it said it was a horoscope record by Omar somebody or other! Black label, silver print. I thought this was just another of their jokes and that the record actually WAS one of theirs! I put it on and it started playing this guy talking about horoscopes! Okay, again, I thought it was all part of the joke. Any second now, the music will start playing! It never did!! I spot checked all the tracks on that side and they were ALL Omar talking about horoscopes!! There WAS no joke!! The joke was on ME because someone at the factory put the wrong record in that cover!! Of course, I took it back and had to get a refund because that was the only copy they had!!
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This happened quite often I can assure you, therefore I always checked in store. Once I bought an album really cheap where everything seemed perfectly OK. When I came home and played it something totally different was in the grooves. Returning it to the shop, where a total nitwit refused to give a refund: This is how this artist sounds! In a full record shop I took the record out, broke it and teared up the sleeve.
This happened only once but I'll never forget the details. I bought "Cold Spring Harbor" by Billy Joel as a $1.99 cut-out at TSS (Times Square Stores) in Levittown, New York also in the 70's (probably '74-'75). I opened it up and found Lee Michaels' "Carnival Of Life" on A&M. Joel's was on Family Productions distributed by G+W. The only things both artists have in common is that they play keyboards.
Luckily, I returned it and exchanged it for another copy. The guy behind the counter said that it has happened before and opened it (a then-forbidden rule) to find the correct record inside.
I know the album is worth a lot more than $1.99 these days, but for me it's the music that matters. It ranks as one my Top 5 Billy Joel albums.
I am acerbic.You are snarky.He is a troll Member since Jul 2014 67 Points
I've not had it happen with a sealed album but I have occasionally bought albums out of town without checking them first,got home and discovered something unexpected.When this has happened I couldn't be bothered making the journey to get them changed and these were all records worth keeping anyway.
Lowell Fulson's The Old Blues Singer (Jet) turned out to be Coldblooded by The Bar-Kays (Stax).It was cheap anyway.Archie Shepp's Four For Trane sleeve contained It Serve You Right To Suffer by John Lee Hooker (both HMV and the cat, numbers were similar.This could have gone horribly wrong and I might have ended up with The Black & White Minstrels).The wrong Charly Elmore James anthology.One Elmore James is as good as another and I subsequently bought the other one and the sleeves looked much the same although the second time I did check the label.
Serendipity eh.
I bought Led Zeppelin IV but the record inside, including the inner sleeve, were from Genesis - Trick Of The Tail. I can see how the mistake was made at the pressing plant;. The catalogue number of IV was 19129, and the catalogue number for ATOTT was 36129. Somebody got three of the numbers right. I don't know how many boxes were shipped this way. Eventually somebody had to notice, right?
I bought Led Zeppelin IV but the record inside, including the inner sleeve, were from Genesis - Trick Of The Tail. I can see how the mistake was made at the pressing plant;. The catalogue number of IV was 19129, and the catalogue number for ATOTT was 36129. Somebody got three of the numbers right. I don't know how many boxes were shipped this way. Eventually somebody had to notice, right?
Yes, and at that time, Columbia in Don Mills was doing contract pressings for Atlantic, Atco and related labels. So the mixup occurred in the packaging department. I was working at Sam The Record Man's main store on Yonge Street in Toronto (the largest record store in Canada) then. After opening my album to find the wrong record, we took all the most recent copies out of the bins upstairs and waited for replacements with the right record.
Yes, and at that time, Columbia in Don Mills was doing contract pressings for Atlantic, Atco and related labels. So the mixup occurred in the packaging department. I was working at Sam The Record Man's main store on Yonge Street in Toronto (the largest record store in Canada) then. After opening my album to find the wrong record, we took all the most recent copies out of the bins upstairs and waited for replacements with the right record.
Having worked in a print shop for 13 years, unless the plants just didn't care, I can't see how these were able to get out of house! Any time we found a screw-up, we had to stop everything, go through everything that could've possibly been assembled wrong, take it apart and do it the right way! Even if it took a few hours.
oh well, la di da Member since Aug 2013 1345 Points
I bought a first pressing of PJ Harvey's Dry, with the bonus demos LP, and when I got home found that it held 2 copies of the proper LP but no demos LP.
However, the sleeve had no track listing for the demos LP and although the labels were identical I just assumed that was the way it was. Even when I played both LPs my initial thought was 'waste of money, there isn't any noticeable difference'.
Some months later I was back in the record shop and commented that there wasn't any difference. They did actually have a spare copy in the back so they bust open the seal and to everybody's surprise there was 2 pressings of the demos LP inside. Needless to say I got to do a swap after returning my copy, but it was pretty amazing that the one they pulled out from the storeroom happened to be the one that they needed to see.
Note that vinyl LPs sold in tiny quantities back in those days and I was probably one of the few awkward customers that asked for them.
oh well, la di da Member since Aug 2013 1345 Points
Break-In Master wrote:
mojofilter wrote:
I bought Led Zeppelin IV but the record inside, including the inner sleeve, were from Genesis - Trick Of The Tail. I can see how the mistake was made at the pressing plant;. The catalogue number of IV was 19129, and the catalogue number for ATOTT was 36129. Somebody got three of the numbers right. I don't know how many boxes were shipped this way. Eventually somebody had to notice, right?
Also, they were both from Atlantic!
I would say that the most likely reason for the confusion is that Led Zepp IV has no writing on the cover whatsoever, so perhaps quite easy to make that mistake.
I bought a first pressing of PJ Harvey's Dry, with the bonus demos LP, and when I got home found that it held 2 copies of the proper LP but no demos LP.
However, the sleeve had no track listing for the demos LP and although the labels were identical I just assumed that was the way it was. Even when I played both LPs my initial thought was 'waste of money, there isn't any noticeable difference'.
Some months later I was back in the record shop and commented that there wasn't any difference. They did actually have a spare copy in the back so they bust open the seal and to everybody's surprise there was 2 pressings of the demos LP inside. Needless to say I got to do a swap after returning my copy, but it was pretty amazing that the one they pulled out from the storeroom happened to be the one that they needed to see.
Note that vinyl LPs sold in tiny quantities back in those days and I was probably one of the few awkward customers that asked for them.
Having worked in two print shops over 13 years, I'd guess they had temps in, one day, and the temps got the wrong records in pile two, that they were working from. Temps are basically there to make money; work is just something they have to do once they sign up for it. They, generally, don't care how well they do the job, as long as they do SOMETHING and get paid for it. We usually catch all the mistakes before they go to the next area in the process but, there's been a few times where we actually had to undo hundreds of items that the temps screwed up and have them re-done the right way!! Some plants where quality isn't key, don't give a shit! They also probably take the stance of, "Well, the buyer will just assume it's collector's item and eventually buy another copy to make up for the mistake so, who cares?"
I bought Led Zeppelin IV but the record inside, including the inner sleeve, were from Genesis - Trick Of The Tail. I can see how the mistake was made at the pressing plant;. The catalogue number of IV was 19129, and the catalogue number for ATOTT was 36129. Somebody got three of the numbers right. I don't know how many boxes were shipped this way. Eventually somebody had to notice, right?
Also, they were both from Atlantic!
I would say that the most likely reason for the confusion is that Led Zepp IV has no writing on the cover whatsoever, so perhaps quite easy to make that mistake.
Probably another example of a temp screw-up. They may have had cases of both records in the warehouse and, although they were SUPPOSED to get 19129, someone just saw a skid of 36129 and didn't even notice the difference and just continued using them!
I've never really worked in a record store, at least not one that sold new releases but, I'm guessing returns don't get shipped back to the plant or the label. They probably just get written-off and that info goes back to the distributor and they just tell the store manager to pitch the mistakes. I used to raid the dumpster at a local distributor and found cases and cases of brand new stuff, each had a note from the label telling them to just throw away anything they couldn't sell or distribute.
oh well, la di da Member since Aug 2013 1345 Points
There is a new double compilation "Best Of Teddy Pendergrass" put out by Philadelphia International (Sony), pressing origin unknown but it is sold in the UK. Unfortunately a large quantity of them come with sides 3&4 of a similar O'Jays compilation. I don't know if Teddy's lost sides are to by found in the jacket of the O'Jays comp.
There is a new double compilation "Best Of Teddy Pendergrass" put out by Philadelphia International (Sony), pressing origin unknown but it is sold in the UK. Unfortunately a large quantity of them come with sides 3&4 of a similar O'Jays compilation. I don't know if Teddy's lost sides are to by found in the jacket of the O'Jays comp.
Weird! But, they ARE both on the same label. I don't recall the label that astrology album was on, it was flat black with silver print but, as far as I know, it had NOTHING to do with Liberty or United Artists (the label the Bonzo's album should've been on) so, I have NO idea how it got into that cover!! If it was coning from the same label, I could see it happening! Even if it was from the same pressing plant but, I have no way of knowing if it WAS the same plant, anymore!
Caddacack oh da ca-caddacack, shy shy skagellack Member since Jun 2010 4140 Points
I bought a cheap two-disk Steely Dan comp a few years ago from Sainsbury's. When I played disc one, I quickly saw that it was playing disc two's tracks! I thought "Oh no, I've got 2 x disk two and I'm going to have to go back and get it changed!" Anyway, I then played disc two and it had disk one's tracks!
I bought a cheap two-disk Steely Dan comp a few years ago from Sainsbury's. When I played disc one, I quickly saw that it was playing disc two's tracks! I thought "Oh no, I've got 2 x disk two and I'm going to have to go back and get it changed!" Anyway, I then played disc two and it had disk one's tracks!
Result!
There must've been a lot of them like that! If someone forgot to change the labels in the press when they switched plates, They probably did a number of them before it was either discovered or the correct labels started showing up. Maybe they only had a few of the wrong ones in and put the right ones in on top of them and just let the old ones run out.
Caddacack oh da ca-caddacack, shy shy skagellack Member since Jun 2010 4140 Points
Break-In Master wrote:
zabadak wrote:
I bought a cheap two-disk Steely Dan comp a few years ago from Sainsbury's. When I played disc one, I quickly saw that it was playing disc two's tracks! I thought "Oh no, I've got 2 x disk two and I'm going to have to go back and get it changed!" Anyway, I then played disc two and it had disk one's tracks!
Result!
There must've been a lot of them like that! If someone forgot to change the labels in the press when they switched plates, They probably did a number of them before it was either discovered or the correct labels started showing up. Maybe they only had a few of the wrong ones in and put the right ones in on top of them and just let the old ones run out.
I bought a cheap two-disk Steely Dan comp a few years ago from Sainsbury's. When I played disc one, I quickly saw that it was playing disc two's tracks! I thought "Oh no, I've got 2 x disk two and I'm going to have to go back and get it changed!" Anyway, I then played disc two and it had disk one's tracks!
Result!
There must've been a lot of them like that! If someone forgot to change the labels in the press when they switched plates, They probably did a number of them before it was either discovered or the correct labels started showing up. Maybe they only had a few of the wrong ones in and put the right ones in on top of them and just let the old ones run out.
Sorry, I neglected to mention these were CDs...
Oh! Okay. Then, somebody just printed the wrong labels. Maybe the entire run is like that, unless they caught before too many got out.