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Is there an easy way to date UK Columbia 78 records ?   


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  18th Jan 2022, 7:18 PM#1  REPORT  
Bamboo

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I have the lists provided to date HMV/ Zonophone records etc.

However, I find Columbia records very difficult to date.

Is there an easy way to do this I wonder ?


  19th Jan 2022, 10:38 AM#2  REPORT  
carryonsidney ●

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You'll need to do some internet digging but there should be plenty of info out there ,

https://78rpm.club/original-record-catalogues/catalogues-europe/

https://78records.wordpress.com/free-online-discographies-columbia-e-series-spottswood-jazz-records-1917-1934-rust/


  21st Jan 2022, 4:00 AM#3  REPORT  
xiphophilos

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I don't think it's that easy. I don't know of any online source for UK Columbias myself, and the link to the US Columbia E-Series discography won't help you much.

I myself don't collect British 78s, but if I did, I'd probably try to get some of the Columbia discographies sold via the website of the The City of London Phonograph and Gramophone Society (CLPGS) at https://www.clpgs.org.uk/label-discographies.html:

Columbia 'DB' and 'LB' series
by Michael Smith and Frank Andrews. Softbound, A4, 370 pages. Introduction & Index.

Columbia 'DX' and 'YBX' series
by Michael Smith, Ernie & Ernest Bayly and Frank Andrews. Soft bound A4. Coloured cover. 176 pages. Introduction & Artist Index.

Columbia FB Variety and Dance Band Records

Columbia Celebrity Series 'L,LX,D,YB,LB,RO,ROX'
by Michael Smith & Frank Andrews. Soft bound, A4, 286 pages. Introduction & Index.


  21st Jan 2022, 2:02 PM#4  REPORT  
scrough

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The second version of our dating software does comprehensively cover the early Columbia series releases up to 1930, and a few of the later series.

But I'd be wary of the CLPGS discogs by Michael Smith as many of his works do not give dates. However the CLPGS publications organiser is very helpful, and would be able to advise.

I have a large quantity of Columbia (and Decca) monthly supplements to process, but will not be able to start on this soon.


  22nd Jan 2022, 2:32 PM#5  REPORT  
Bamboo

Member since Apr 2019
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Very good indeed.

Thank you very much for your help everyone.

I asked this because recently I played a Columbia 'William Tell' overture 2 disc set and assumed (because of the way the label looked) that they were made during the 1940's. Later however, I realised that the date was actually 1909.

It will be much easier with Scrough's list.


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