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| 28th Feb 2022, 6:09 AM | #1 REPORT | |
 | RecordDragon Member since Nov 2013 234 Points | I came across this video titled 'Phony Oldies: Re-Recordings & How to Avoid Them'. The host of the video talks about the re-recordings and what to look for on the CD packaging to see if you're getting re-recorded versions of tracks or not. Sometimes it's easy to tell, other times it is not. |
| 28th Feb 2022, 8:49 PM | #2 REPORT | |
| 23skidoo Member since Jul 2014 4217 Points | Nothing new, of course, as this has been a challenge since at least the 1950s if not earlier, but still good advice. If you're a fan of a specific artist, you get to know certain clues, whether label names or copyrights to even runtimes. (My speciality is Bill Haley: if Rock Around the Clock shows with a run-time of 2:14 it's the 1968 Sonet records re-recording. If there's no runtime but it's accompanied by the track "Framed" then it's the live version from 1969 released by Buddah Records. Or if you see "Justine" or "La Marcha De Los Santos" listed nearby, it's Orfeon of Mexico, 1966. "My Special Angel" appears nearby, it's Warner Bros. 1960. But not everyone has that level of interest or knowledge. Fortunately Elvis only re-recorded a handful of his songs in studio. But then you have people like Haley, Chuck Berry, Little Richard, etc. (and I'm just talking the early rock and rollers) who recorded new versions of their hits pretty much every time they changed labels. It still happens today. Taylor Swift recently rerecorded some of her hits because of a publishing dispute or something. And UK singer Katie Melua released an album called "Album No. 8" in 2020, followed in 2021 by "Acoustic Album No. 8" with the same songs re-recorded in new arrangements. No one's likely to get the two of them confused in 2022 ... but in 2042? 2062? And the fact many original recordings are falling into public domain in parts of the world it's going to become even more challenging to seek out originals from remakes. |
| 28th Feb 2022, 11:26 PM | #3 REPORT | |
 | zabadak Caddacack oh da ca-caddacack, shy shy skagellack Member since Jun 2010 4194 Points | Sometimes, they become artefacts in their own right and must-haves for fans - e.g. the Roy Orbison "Black And White Night" recordings  |
| 1st Mar 2022, 11:41 PM | #4 REPORT | |
 | Burton LeB SUBS You don't see many of the rare ones, do you? Member since Jul 2012 1982 Points | Some years ago I wrote a review of a compilation CD of 70s hits for a certain website (begins with A and has a Z in the name) and kept a copy of it but forgot to include the title, and I can't remember what it was called. Anyway, this is what I said: "At first glance it looks like a comprehensive collection of Seventies tracks - the mutt's nuts, as some put it coyly - and there are some uncommon inclusions on it too, the kind that hardly ever make it onto this kind of compilation. Blackfoot Sue's 'Standing In The Road' to name but one - shades of Slade, vocal-wise and a good pop stomper; well that's how I remembered it, but on this album it sounds weak and unconvincing. I realise that some things you remember as being great at the time (certain Dr. Who plots and monsters, the tank top you wore to school discos) are, when viewed in the cold light of the present day, frankly laughable.. but these tracks don't fall into that particular category. No, the reason why Blackfoot Sue sound lacklustre now (and you're probably ahead of me here) is that this track isn't the rather good version that made the Top 5 in August 1972. In fact the majority of tracks here - all bar one, to my jaded ears - are not the original versions. I should have paid attention to the small print on the rear inlay, although buying it mail-order unseen I didn't get an opportunity. For anyone interested in music from the past, that concise yet deadly caveat included on this kind of compilation sends a chill down the spine: 'To obtain the highest possible quality, some tracks have been re-recorded by the original artists or one or more members of the original groups.' Now what this cleverly worded sentence means is that that to qualify as being credited as an 'original artist' then a band only needs to contain a single member of the group of that name - in other words, it could be just the drummer of one of the bands that is on the newer recording, and - regardless of his or her ability, or the equipment used - the track just isn't going to sound the same, is it? It’s high time that compilers, labels and marketing bods were more honest (actually, just make that honest) about just why this re-recording is done. Something like this would do: 'In order to obtain the highest possible quality, and in order to save us a lot of expense, effort and unnecessary hassle trying to license the original hit versions of these songs, we've tracked down one of the guys from each group, brought them out of retirement and shoved them into a studio with some geezers he knows from down the pub, and got them to knock out a half-arsed version of the track that you remember. And let's face it, as you're now in your fifties / sixties you probably won't remember exactly how it goes and neither will the other people at the party who are completely off their faces and trying to dance to it. Thanks for buying it though, suckers.' |
| 3rd Mar 2022, 9:21 PM | #5 REPORT | |
| henry29 Member since Jan 2013 1524 Points | Dates! No original dates on the recordings, or no dates at all means, Outtakes, live or re-recorded. H. |
| 3rd May 2022, 5:38 PM | #6 REPORT | |
| 23skidoo Member since Jul 2014 4217 Points | A related topic - and one I think just as worthy of a video - is where a CD features original tracks, but overdubbed. Back in the 1980s Orfeon Records added modern drums and other instrumentation to a number of Bill Haley recordings dating from 1961 to 1966. When Jasmine Records in the UK put out a CD of Haley's early Orfeon recordings a few years ago, they accidentally included some of the overdubbed versions. There's also the case of the Buddy Holly recordings that had some pretty awful backing vocals overdubbed years later, and those versions are often the ones that show up on the budget/public domain releases. I've been stung a couple of times to the point I now will no longer purchase any budget-line Holly CD reissues because I don't want those versions. |
| 19th Jun 2022, 7:07 AM | #7 REPORT | |
 | Focus B Member since Aug 2013 292 Points | Embarrassingly, at the time I first got a CD player, I purchased a Fortunes CD which had a '60s band photo. It was only when I got home I saw the small print, "To ensure the best sound quality these are re-recordings featuring some original band members. It hardly brought faith in the new format. No wonder I stuck with vinyl. |
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