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  31st Dec 2023, 4:55 PM#1  REPORT  
Mike Wilson1

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Since I have lost the use of my legs I decided that I would try and do a bit of cataloguing of my music collection from the 1940's......I was pleasantly surprised to find that of all the popular music released from the period 1940 - 1947 I have all but 35 recordings and am putting them altogether as a resource to other music lovers on this site.....Perhaps you may be able to help me locate the missing 35 songs to complete the project ?.....If you think you might be able to help or would like to know what the elusive recordings are please feel free to drop me a message


  31st Dec 2023, 8:36 PM#2  REPORT  
Juke Jules SUBS

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All the popular music? You must have thaa-a-sands :grin:
Your loss is a terrible price to pay, but it's a gain for the collector community!


  1st Jan 2024, 2:26 PM#3  REPORT  
Mike Wilson1

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Juke Jules wrote:
All the popular music? You must have thaa-a-sands :grin:
Your loss is a terrible price to pay, but it's a gain for the collector community!

Just want to give something back I guess and yes, I do have one or two records....I have been collecting since 1971......Before I release the archive I still want to get these 35 discs that have eluded me


  4th Jan 2024, 12:06 AM#4  REPORT  
Whyperion SUBS🍰

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JJ , not necessarily in 78 format.

But I do feel a Dr Johnson's Dictionary Moment coming on for something of the time not listed, but I think Mike has restricted it to British Performers or UK recordings not everything released in the UK - much of which was US sourced.

You will note the five and half years of this was WW2 where things were much impacted, and we were effectively down to two record companies - Decca and EMI. 1946 and 1947 somewhat under the export or die manufacturing and still some rationing. 1948 might have brought the challenger labels and jazz etc specialists.along with (in the US) those new fangled little 45 discs

Edited by Whyperion on 4th Jan 2024, 12:11 AM

  4th Jan 2024, 9:34 AM#5  REPORT  
Mike Wilson1

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Whyperion wrote:
JJ , not necessarily in 78 format.

But I do feel a Dr Johnson's Dictionary Moment coming on for something of the time not listed, but I think Mike has restricted it to British Performers or UK recordings not everything released in the UK - much of which was US sourced.

You will note the five and half years of this was WW2 where things were much impacted, and we were effectively down to two record companies - Decca and EMI. 1946 and 1947 somewhat under the export or die manufacturing and still some rationing. 1948 might have brought the challenger labels and jazz etc specialists.along with (in the US) those new fangled little 45 discs
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Yes....I was careful to put that I had collected all the POPULAR music not everything released and that I had limited my discs to those released in the UK......Did not mean to mislead or confuse anyone.....It is certainly possible that my enthusiasm go the better of me !!!!.....I used as a yardstick those lists and charts that are available from those years so if a disc is listed in any of those I bracket it as POPULAR as it had to have sold quite a few copies to be included.


  7th Jan 2024, 12:50 AM#6  REPORT  
Whyperion SUBS🍰

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I suppose "missing" from your categories would be the likes of Brass Band (which Regal Zonophone seemed to monopolise) and orchestral/operatic - which was mainly on 12in discs and full orchestras were difficult to assemble during the WW2 years. We also lost source of supply of Dutch and German for example works that would have been pressed on prestige , and discount, shellacs pre WW2 and I think the "revival" in 1920s US Jazz didnt really get going until the 1950s and these would be sourced in the main from those US masters.


  17th Feb 2024, 1:21 PM#7  REPORT  
Quad5point1 SUBS

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Every now and again I popped into this thread to see what was happening. I had been watching some history DVD's and I came across a piece of film from 1942 that talks about 78 rpm recycling for the war effort. I uploaded to youtube and It probably answers a lot of the questions around missing 78's. It will be available publicly from tomorrow.

https://youtu.be/VFkHPcI7Rok




  17th Feb 2024, 1:32 PM#8  REPORT  
mister_tmg

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Quad5point1 wrote:
Every now and again I popped into this thread to see what was happening. I had been watching some history DVD's and I came across a piece of film from 1942 that talks about 78 rpm recycling for the war effort. I uploaded to youtube and It probably answers a lot of the questions around missing 78's. It will be available publicly from tomorrow.

https://youtu.be/VFkHPcI7Rok
“This video is private” - nothing plays.


  17th Feb 2024, 1:35 PM#9  REPORT  
Steel-River-Wet SUBS

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mister_tmg wrote:
Quad5point1 wrote:
Every now and again I popped into this thread to see what was happening. I had been watching some history DVD's and I came across a piece of film from 1942 that talks about 78 rpm recycling for the war effort. I uploaded to youtube and It probably answers a lot of the questions around missing 78's. It will be available publicly from tomorrow.

https://youtu.be/VFkHPcI7Rok
“This video is private” - nothing plays.

Yep, sadly :sad:


  17th Feb 2024, 2:08 PM#10  REPORT  
Quad5point1 SUBS

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Steel-River-Wet wrote:
mister_tmg wrote:
Quad5point1 wrote:
Every now and again I popped into this thread to see what was happening. I had been watching some history DVD's and I came across a piece of film from 1942 that talks about 78 rpm recycling for the war effort. I uploaded to youtube and It probably answers a lot of the questions around missing 78's. It will be available publicly from tomorrow.

https://youtu.be/VFkHPcI7Rok
“This video is private” - nothing plays.

Yep, sadly :sad:

I did say "It will be available publicly from tomorrow." I had to set a time it would go live and that is midnight tonight Saturday 17/02/24 UK time. Youtube set that time BTW not me. Sorry for any confusion :embarrassed:


  17th Feb 2024, 2:25 PM#11  REPORT  
Steel-River-Wet SUBS

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Quad5point1 wrote:
Steel-River-Wet wrote:
mister_tmg wrote:
Quad5point1 wrote:
Every now and again I popped into this thread to see what was happening. I had been watching some history DVD's and I came across a piece of film from 1942 that talks about 78 rpm recycling for the war effort. I uploaded to youtube and It probably answers a lot of the questions around missing 78's. It will be available publicly from tomorrow.

https://youtu.be/VFkHPcI7Rok

“This video is private” - nothing plays.

Yep, sadly :sad:

I did say "It will be available publicly from tomorrow." I had to set a time it would go live and that is midnight tonight Saturday 17/02/24 UK time. Youtube set that time BTW not me. Sorry for any confusion :embarrassed:

Cool. Thank you :thumbsup:


  17th Feb 2024, 3:51 PM#12  REPORT  
mister_tmg

Also on 78rpm
Member since Apr 2012
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Quad5point1 wrote:
Steel-River-Wet wrote:
mister_tmg wrote:
Quad5point1 wrote:
Every now and again I popped into this thread to see what was happening. I had been watching some history DVD's and I came across a piece of film from 1942 that talks about 78 rpm recycling for the war effort. I uploaded to youtube and It probably answers a lot of the questions around missing 78's. It will be available publicly from tomorrow.

https://youtu.be/VFkHPcI7Rok
“This video is private” - nothing plays.

Yep, sadly :sad:

I did say "It will be available publicly from tomorrow." I had to set a time it would go live and that is midnight tonight Saturday 17/02/24 UK time. Youtube set that time BTW not me. Sorry for any confusion :embarrassed:

I didn’t know you had to set a time, rather than letting it go live instantly.


  18th Feb 2024, 8:24 AM#13  REPORT  
Quad5point1 SUBS

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Edited by Quad5point1 on 18th Feb 2024, 8:50 AM

  18th Feb 2024, 10:26 PM#14  REPORT  
mister_tmg

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Thanks for uploading. Sad to see those records being destroyed! Is Nellie Wallace the lady at the start?


  19th Feb 2024, 8:01 AM#15  REPORT  
Quad5point1 SUBS

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I really don't know, I was more intrigued by the guy you get a short glimpse of, he looked like Herbert Morrison but again I really don't know. The film itself probably explains why so many records from that period just don't exist. Any wonder though our parents/ grandparents died of lung disease, all that dust and not a mask in sight! Health and safety at work has come a long way since


  19th Feb 2024, 10:40 PM#16  REPORT  
mister_tmg

Also on 78rpm
Member since Apr 2012
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Quad5point1 wrote:
I really don't know, I was more intrigued by the guy you get a short glimpse of, he looked like Herbert Morrison but again I really don't know. The film itself probably explains why so many records from that period just don't exist. Any wonder though our parents/ grandparents died of lung disease, all that dust and not a mask in sight! Health and safety at work has come a long way since
When? Stanley Holloway came with Sandy Powell, the latter’s name wasn’t mentioned either. I’m pretty sure the lady was Nellie Wallace.


  20th Feb 2024, 12:07 PM#17  REPORT  
Quad5point1 SUBS

Member since Jul 2012
10688 Points
mister_tmg wrote:
Quad5point1 wrote:
I really don't know, I was more intrigued by the guy you get a short glimpse of, he looked like Herbert Morrison but again I really don't know. The film itself probably explains why so many records from that period just don't exist. Any wonder though our parents/ grandparents died of lung disease, all that dust and not a mask in sight! Health and safety at work has come a long way since
When? Stanley Holloway came with Sandy Powell, the latter’s name wasn’t mentioned either. I’m pretty sure the lady was Nellie Wallace.

Mystery solved :thumbsup:


  21st Feb 2024, 12:06 AM#18  REPORT  
mister_tmg

Also on 78rpm
Member since Apr 2012
1118 Points
Quad5point1 wrote:
mister_tmg wrote:
Quad5point1 wrote:
I really don't know, I was more intrigued by the guy you get a short glimpse of, he looked like Herbert Morrison but again I really don't know. The film itself probably explains why so many records from that period just don't exist. Any wonder though our parents/ grandparents died of lung disease, all that dust and not a mask in sight! Health and safety at work has come a long way since
When? Stanley Holloway came with Sandy Powell, the latter’s name wasn’t mentioned either. I’m pretty sure the lady was Nellie Wallace.

Mystery solved :thumbsup:

I’ll grant you, there is a facial similarity between Herbert Morrison and Sandy Powell!


  23rd Feb 2024, 10:10 PM#19  REPORT  
Quad5point1 SUBS

Member since Jul 2012
10688 Points
mister_tmg wrote:
Quad5point1 wrote:
mister_tmg wrote:
Quad5point1 wrote:
I really don't know, I was more intrigued by the guy you get a short glimpse of, he looked like Herbert Morrison but again I really don't know. The film itself probably explains why so many records from that period just don't exist. Any wonder though our parents/ grandparents died of lung disease, all that dust and not a mask in sight! Health and safety at work has come a long way since
When? Stanley Holloway came with Sandy Powell, the latter’s name wasn’t mentioned either. I’m pretty sure the lady was Nellie Wallace.

Mystery solved :thumbsup:

I’ll grant you, there is a facial similarity between Herbert Morrison and Sandy Powell!

It's an age thing


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