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  27th Dec 2012, 12:42 PM#1  REPORT  
TheJudge

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Because of a lack of available information either on the records themselves or 'out there' generally, we're going to have major issues with this.

Just to take one example (and no criticism of anyone should be inferred from this), if you look at the UK Columbia listing, we have a date given for - for example - DB 2725 of 1941, and yet we have three Josef Locke discs with lower cat#s in the 'DB' sequence which must have been from no earlier than 1946, as Locke didn't start recording for Columbia until then.

Could anyone submitting a definite year from any source other than the label/sleeve state in their notes (or even as a comment) where they got the info from?

Also, does anyone know of any reliable sources (preferably online) for any such data?


  27th Dec 2012, 1:51 PM#2  REPORT  
VinylSid

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Totally agree things are starting to get a tad random with some dates. I'm been guilty as you know, what with the Down Your Way tune.
My daughter did all the research on the dates several years ago, and I'm simply copying her info.
In future I'll just leave a blank if the dates look a bit iffy. Those in-the-know can fill them in.
Off to start scanning our 'M's today!.
PS: This site seems to have far few members than I guessed it would by now. Can 45cat have an eye-catching link emblazoned on its home page?, just a thought.
Cheers. Sid B



  27th Dec 2012, 3:24 PM#3  REPORT  
KeithS SUBS

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http://www.amazon.co.uk/Almost-Complete-Record-Dating-Guide/dp/0964068729


  27th Dec 2012, 4:18 PM#4  REPORT  
LouisSidney

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http://victor.library.ucsb.edu/

Edited by moderator on 27th Dec 2012, 11:22 PM

  27th Dec 2012, 4:20 PM#5  REPORT  
LouisSidney

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http://www.78discography.com/

Edited by moderator on 27th Dec 2012, 11:23 PM

  27th Dec 2012, 4:24 PM#6  REPORT  
LouisSidney

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http://78rpmrecordlabels.blogspot.fr/
providing many interesting 78 links.

Edited by moderator on 27th Dec 2012, 11:23 PM

  28th Dec 2012, 10:32 AM#7  REPORT  
Tony P

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http://www.globaldogproductions.info/

For releases after 1955 info can be found in the new records magazine.
Scans of these are on 45cat forum "record catalogues"

For London and Vogue (V9000 series) I have listings produced by Record Information Services.



Edited by tony p on 28th Dec 2012, 10:33 AM

  30th Dec 2012, 1:25 AM#8  REPORT  
Juke Jules SUBS

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Another useful site:CHARM online discography
BTW Guys, you can make a URL show up as a link if you use the 'Insert Webpage Link' button when posting. I edited LS's posts to create links, hope you don't mind



  30th Dec 2012, 4:55 PM#9  REPORT  
LouisSidney

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Thank you for the advice, Juke Jules, I didn't know how to do that, so far.

Edited by LouisSidney on 30th Dec 2012, 4:56 PM

  7th Jan 2013, 10:20 AM#10  REPORT  
Dr Doom SUBS ●

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VinylSid wrote:
PS: This site seems to have far few members than I guessed it would by now. Can 45cat have an eye-catching link emblazoned on its home page?, just a thought.
Cheers. Sid B

Sorry just noticed this.

We've not really made the worlds open to the public yet but It looks like testing is 99% complete so we will be launching the websites properly tomorrow.

Hopefully we'll see new members appearing over the next few weeks.

:happy:


  7th Jan 2013, 11:27 AM#11  REPORT  
biffbampow

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It's all looking really neat. My visits here will be much rarer than at 45cat (which are daily) since I'm not really into 78's, 12 inch singles, CD or cassette singles, but hugely appreciate this logical expansion... it will undoubtedly follow in 45cat's wake in becoming a definitive resource and database of information.

So, all the best for the future!


  7th Jan 2013, 8:23 PM#12  REPORT  
zabadak

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I don't have dating problems as I am no longer single... :wink:


  7th Jan 2013, 10:06 PM#13  REPORT  
TheJudge

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Someone had to say that, Zab, and I felt sure it was gonna be you! :grin:


  7th Jan 2013, 10:12 PM#14  REPORT  
zabadak

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TheJudge wrote:
Someone had to say that, Zab, and I felt sure it was gonna be you! :grin:

Took one for the team, Judgey! :wink:


  8th Jan 2013, 3:20 PM#15  REPORT  
Tony P

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The website for Record Information Services is athttp://record-information-services.co.uk/RECORD_INFORMATION_SERVICES/CATALOGUES.html
They have listings for various labels for sale



  9th Jan 2013, 11:16 PM#16  REPORT  
VinylSid

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zabadak wrote:
I don't have dating problems as I am no longer single... :wink:
LOL, as the youngsters say!


  12th Jan 2013, 8:00 PM#17  REPORT  
scrough ●

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TheJudge wrote:
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Also, does anyone know of any reliable sources (preferably online) for any such data?
A lot of the dates online are recording dates, not release dates. Most of the published discographies (eg Brian Rust references) are the same.

This makes 'release dating' a minefield. Parlophone UK's Argentinian Tango series (OT prefix) released from the early 1930s onwards has recordings made in the early 1920s, so if you look them up online you'll be completely scuppered.

Maybe its something you need to start here. A 'Guide to Dating' (like the biog page) for each label?


  12th Jan 2013, 11:34 PM#18  REPORT  
LouisSidney

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scrough wrote:
Maybe its something you need to start here. A 'Guide to Dating' (like the biog page) for each label?

Just do it ! (with a little help...)


  14th Jan 2013, 5:01 PM#19  REPORT  
scrough ●

No picture 'cos I'm not into 45rpm :(
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LouisSidney wrote:
Just do it ! (with a little help...)
OK, first done, see Winner. Comments welcome.


  14th Jan 2013, 5:11 PM#20  REPORT  
Dr Doom SUBS ●

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scrough wrote:
LouisSidney wrote:
Just do it ! (with a little help...)
OK, first done, see Winner. Comments welcome.

Brilliant

:thumbsup:


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