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| 21st Mar 2013, 8:20 PM | #1 REPORT | |
 | VinylSid Member since Dec 2012 618 Points | I'm still shocked in discovering today my daughter Liz's 78s4FR account has been terminated by Youtube!. She'll be devastated. 1020 clips down the plug. Something about too many copywrite infringements. Why now?. She hasn't added for over a year!. Fortunately I possess most of her clips on a portable hard-drive so now considering re-posting some gradually under a new name Edited by VinylSid on 21st Mar 2013, 8:24 PM |
| 22nd Mar 2013, 12:38 AM | #2 REPORT | |
 | Juke Jules SUBS Tell me he's lazy, tell me he's slow Member since Jan 2011 4150 Points Moderator | That's enormously frustrating, and may have invalidated some YT's posted on 78rpm World. We see so many instances on 45cat and I always wonder what sort of awful abuse caused YT to expel someone. She hadn't signed up for that "monetarize your videos" stuff by any chance? Presumably this happens when the bean-counters realise they own the performance rights on another wad of artists. My guess is that if you start uploading them one by one, their copyright bot will reject some without banning you. I've had messages like "We believe the copyright to this is owned by Universal Beancounters Inc and the upload has been stopped, please contact us if you believe you have the right to..." but they haven't banned me for trying. I also had one something like "we believe... UBI but we have allowed the upload to proceed" |
| 22nd Mar 2013, 1:41 AM | #3 REPORT | |
 | Jock_Girl A girl who looks good in vinyl Member since Dec 2012 1544 Points Moderator | What's always bugged me about stuff like this is when its something that Universal Beancounters have absolutely no intention of releasing. In so many cases the niche audience is so small that it wouldn't pay them to release something, yet at the same time they will claim 50 kajillion dollar/ pounds/ yen/ lira/ rubles/ euros in damages if someone uploads 1 video of a scratchy old 78! |
| 22nd Mar 2013, 8:53 AM | #4 REPORT | |
 | nboldock Lend me ten pounds and I'll buy you a drink. Member since Feb 2012 7267 Points Moderator | It's a sorry state of affairs... they judge everyone by their own money-grabbing standards and fail to understand that the reason people post these things is not for personal gain, it is to share art and music with people who enjoy listening to it. I watch music on YouTube because I love music. Simple really. If I like it enough I'll buy it and everyone's happy. Not everything has a worth measured in ££££ or $$$$. It makes my blood boil to be honest. I once got a legal letter and had a page taken down from an MP3 blog I used to run, okay I know I was technically breaking the law but I was doing it to allow people to hear new (and old) music and then encouraging them to BUY the records/CDs, I must have had a readership barely out of single figures yet they still forced one of my blog posts to be taken down. Ridiculous. |
| 22nd Mar 2013, 11:17 AM | #5 REPORT | |
| goodrats Member since Jan 2013 2222 Points | This site's pretty good for your listening pleasure: http://78records.cdbpdx.com/ Edited by moderator on 23rd Mar 2013, 10:28 AM |
| 22nd Mar 2013, 2:20 PM | #6 REPORT | |
 | Dr Doom SUBS I wanna eat an artichoke once in a while Member since Feb 2008 25440 Points Administrator | Seen as we're talking about 78s I'm sure the vast majority of those clips are public domain by now. Bah! |
| 22nd Mar 2013, 2:38 PM | #7 REPORT | |
| Jock_Girl A girl who looks good in vinyl Member since Dec 2012 1544 Points Moderator | From what I have heard is that a lot of these take downs are erroneous. In some cases a record of 'Some Song' by 'Ned Nasal' was released by PDQ in 1912. A person posts a video of the record playing. In the meantime in 1992, PDQ International released a CD of the classic recordings of Ned Nasal. It sells 500 copies, with 2,000 still sitting in the warehouse in 2013. PDQ charges copyright violation against their 1992 CD even though 'Some Song' was public domain in 1992. Its knee-jerk |
| 22nd Mar 2013, 11:28 PM | #8 REPORT | |
| VinylSid Member since Dec 2012 618 Points |
Juke Jules wrote:
She hadn't signed up for that "monetarize your videos" stuff by any chance?
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| 23rd Mar 2013, 11:22 AM | #9 REPORT | |
| Whyperion SUBS Too Many Records , Too Little Time Member since Jan 2013 306 Points | If the recordings are off the original media , direct from the reproducing device , then for UK records before 31 Dec 1962 there should be no copyright infringment issues. ( I think that channel met the criteria ). For USA recordings I think there was some recentish legislation that brought some US recordings back into copyright , but I dont think that legislation applies to UK. |
| 25th Mar 2013, 6:14 AM | #10 REPORT | |
| scrough ● No picture 'cos I'm not into 45rpm :( Member since Jan 2013 3469 Points Moderator | Yep, pre 1963 now, but soon to timewarp, so 1963 'ish and later aren't out of copyright until 2034 'ish or later. UK peeps can read it all offically here. And you'll also see that Ned Nasals CD re-released pre 1963 recordings can't be re-copyrighted, so feel free to copy them from any media! Only the CD artwork is copyright. |
| 25th Mar 2013, 8:25 PM | #11 REPORT | |
| Pridesale Member since Mar 2013 805 Points | I'm not certain about the Copyright from other media , as one cannot be certain if the 'new media' is from the record ( the clicks and bumps on some of my commercial tapes from the 70s/80s would indicate they were ) , or if from unissued recordings / original masters ). How many UK 78s were produced ( individual tracks ) after 01 Jan 1963 ? http://www.45worlds.com/78rpm/record/pr750 Seems the Only 1963 UK record , which , despite the no reproduction without licence seems to have been made for use as sound effects kind of music ! [image]6838[/image] from 1964 in USA - a market supplied with 78s till the mid 1960s the record page comments informs us. Edited by Pridesale on 25th Mar 2013, 8:29 PM |
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