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| 24th Mar 2013, 8:32 PM | #1 REPORT | |
 | Pridesale Member since Mar 2013 805 Points | How to get Confused From Wiki Polydor was originally an independent branch of the Deutsche Grammophon Gesellschaft. Its name was first used as an export label in 1924, the British and German branches of the Gramophone Company having severed their ties during World War I. Deutsche Grammophon claimed the rights to the His Master's Voice trademark for Germany, where HMV recordings were released under the Electrola trademark. 1920s vintage Polydor export label with its double-horn gramophone logo In turn, DGG records exported out of Germany were released on the Polydor label. Polydor became a popular music label in 1946 while Deutsche Grammophon became a classical music label. The German rights to the His Master's Voice trademark was sold by Deutsche Grammophon to the Electrola Records unit of EMI in 1949.[1] Polydor remained Deutsche Grammophon's export label, including classical music, in France and the Spanish-speaking world for the remainder of the long-playing era, as a result of language and cultural concerns. No doubt there are better sources for information on 1930s/40s/50s 78s , but my interest has been prodded by a Set of Beethoven Pastoral's records , where the Grammophone and Polydor Cat Numbers run in sequence on a multi-album set. |
| 25th Mar 2013, 9:59 PM | #2 REPORT | |
 | Juke Jules SUBS Tell me he's lazy, tell me he's slow Member since Jan 2011 4150 Points Moderator | Pridesale - That would really good as the discography for Polydor, would you like to add that? - Jules |
| 26th Mar 2013, 6:44 AM | #3 REPORT | |
| Pridesale Member since Mar 2013 805 Points | I just cut pasted and edited to try to get my own understanding having a part set of a symphony and noted that the numbers ran the same order on the differing lables. The actual wiki entry is considerably more giving an even more convoluted history of the use of the Polydor Name. If you think its useful for dropping into a biography of the label , feel free to paste it there, but for which country ? The whole history of the Berliner companies (Including Deutsche Grammophon )is muddied by two world wars , economic mergers , acquisitions and split offs, and if Polydor was supposed to be an export label to the UK why have I got very Germanic writing on mine ? In short I dont think the present day Wilkipedia entry is written clearly or correctly and that as records get added here the simplistic view of DG as Classical Label , Polydor as Popular Music / Export may well be subject to query. We do have an advantage over Wikipedia as we could create Biographies for German Polydor , West German Polydor and UK Polydor , which would all be slightly different and may make better sense, if we can track down basic information like pressing plant details. Have I read on 45cat that Polydor's UK pressing plant was in Aston Clinton (Bucks) ? Was that in use in the 78 era or a new plant built post war ? From the few we have on here already : Interwar : (Export for France and UK ? - so is it listed correctly under Germany ? ) [image]12765[/image] Undated , but appears interwar , for German Use ? [image]12880[/image] Postwar (also used on early 45s ) , for W Germany ? Popular or Classical ? [image]6149[/image] Meanwhile Grammophone , using the Victor Logo [image]12773[/image] We are yet to find a Nipper Logo on Electrola [image]7297[/image] I understand other 78 sites exist , but as I am not a collector I have not really investigated them, so help or better knowledge from others welcome. Edited by Pridesale on 26th Mar 2013, 6:57 AM |
| 26th Mar 2013, 8:48 PM | #4 REPORT | |
| Juke Jules SUBS Tell me he's lazy, tell me he's slow Member since Jan 2011 4150 Points Moderator | I didn't appreciate that you were quoting from Wikipedia, and I agree that it would be very beneficial to have separate Polydor biogs by country. You have made a good start on this work and I hope that others will help with this as this World grows |
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