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| 8th Jan 2013, 8:13 PM | #21 REPORT | |
 | Hawkmarty SUBS ● Do You Like It Here Now Member since Dec 2012 3050 Points Moderator | The King Crimson CD with 4 versions of 21st Century Schizoid Man actually asks in its sleeve notes whether it is a single or an album!  |
| 3rd Feb 2013, 10:16 PM | #22 REPORT | |
| RadoxTheGreen Wait, I have to scan what now? Member since Jan 2013 772 Points Moderator | Just thought I should point out that Beyonce's Work It Out remixes is classed as a Maxi-Single. It has 10 remixes of the same track and a total run time of around an hour. It's not unique by any means, most dance based acts seem to be releasing maxi-singles of similar length/track numbers. Personally, I think if they are all remixes of the same track, it's a single, no matter how long the run time. Ditto if they tack on a couple of other tracks that would be the traditional "B Side" tracks. It would need to be at least 6 tracks, 5 of which were different before I thought of it as an album. |
| 4th Feb 2013, 8:38 AM | #23 REPORT | |
 | sladesounds Turning rebellion into money since 1962 Member since Nov 2009 6560 Points Moderator |
RadoxTheGreen wrote:
Personally, I think if they are all remixes of the same track, it's a single, no matter how long the run time. Ditto if they tack on a couple of other tracks that would be the traditional "B Side" tracks. It would need to be at least 6 tracks, 5 of which were different before I thought of it as an album.
Radox like you I have come across singles that contain various mixes thus raising the possibility of falling under the Mini-LP banner. What seems to be the thinking between my fellow Mods (at present) is that rather than setting a limit or allowing carte blanche, each disc could be looked at in it's own merit and common sense applied. The Beyonce single is a prime example. If it is promoted as a single (or maxi-single) and/or hits the charts in that format (i.e. is counted towards single sales) then it must be a single regardless if it has 1 track or 10 mixes. Here according to the UK Chart company is what makes a single (for UK chart purposes only): Inclusion criteria To qualify for inclusion in the UK singles chart, a single must meet the following criteria: It must be available on one or more eligible formats. Eligible formats are CD, DVD, vinyl, cassette, digital download, MiniDisc and flexi disc. All formats must contain the featured track or a version/remix of it. Only three formats may be included in a single's sales; sales in additional formats are disregarded when calculating a single's chart position. The single must meet the minimum dealer price requirement (as of 2012, 40p for a digital audio track) Each format must have no more than four different tracks, although each song may appear in any number of different versions. What throws up big problems for my stance on this subject however is the criteria that: Maximum running time for any format is 25 minutes (if more than one different song is featured), or 40 minutes (if one song is featured in multiple versions/mixes). Bearing in mind what I said above, the fact that a disc is not eligible for chart inclusion (because of time) does not necessarily exclude it from entry in CD World especially if it is promoted by the label as a single. Each will have to be looked at in it's own merits. Not sure if that clarifies anything or muddies the water more  Edited by sladesounds on 4th Feb 2013, 8:41 AM |
| 8th Feb 2013, 12:16 AM | #24 REPORT | |
| chang4pian4 Korean 45 blog: http://koreanvinyl.wordpress.com/ Member since Feb 2013 7 Points | The criteria above seems quite sound. However, I think it best that 45worlds codify a clear criteria ASAP and have this up front before people list too many items that may not qualify. Having the criteria consistent with the UK single charts specifications makes a lot of sense. Would say the same thing in regards to 12 inchers too. |
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