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Neil Forbes 25th Jul 2015
| | Oh RC, will you stop "loaf-ing" around!(ha-ha) |
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Record Collector 25th Jul 2015
| | This post must be like dough it keeps rising |
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Neil Forbes 25th Jul 2015
| | Well Monolith, I did try to warn you.... Dee-dee-dee-dee, Dee-dee-dee-dee...... Oh dear what's happened here? |
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Monolith 24th Jul 2015
| | Too late Neil.
Been there, done that, still receiving treatment for it. |
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Neil Forbes 24th Jul 2015
| | Hey Monolith, ol' chum, be ve-e-e-r-r-r-y-y-y careful playing any of those early Vertigo label issues, especially the A-sides. Stare at them long enough and......(twilight zone theme kicks in about here) Ha-ha. |
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henry29 23rd Jul 2015
| | Agree with All. A LP Demanded to be Played all the way through while You read and admire the sleeve. A CD I just Pre Program the tracks I want to hear and leave It at that. Cannot be bothered the get a Magnifying Glass to Read the Notes. And don't even go there with MP3's. H. |
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Monolith 23rd Jul 2015
| | Vinyl has life, spirit, soul.
With vinyl you got flipover covers, foldout covers, you got posters, panties, billion dollar notes, lyric sheets big enough to read, deadwax etchings, coloured vinyl, picture discs, shaped discs.
CDs you get a one sided lifeless bit of plastic and a tiny booklet housed in a generic plastic case.
But you know, one of the best things about vinyl is, you can watch your disc spin, sounds stupid maybe, but it's part of the whole show. You're listening to your record and get to watch it as you listen.
CDs are shoved in a little drawer, disappear from sight and the magic vanishes with the disc.
It's like buying a hand made piece of furniture and an MDF piece from IKEA. Both functional and do the job, but there's no contest as which deserves the greater love. |
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Record Collector 23rd Jul 2015
| | Agrees with 23skidoo during the seventies I used to buy a lot of ktel and EMI records and when the eighties hasn't stop me buying them but it wasn't until 1985 I started buying second hand LPs I used to buy them by the truck load now I have scaled back as it's going to big task for me packing them when moving |
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23skidoo 23rd Jul 2015
| | @Neil: "Not all LPs are worth buying!" That very much depends on one's taste of course. I have plenty of records that I love that make other people run for the nearest air raid shelter. And of course quality doesn't reflect collectability. And I'd say a good third of my collection has never and will never be released on CD, especially some of the ones I have where the pressing was literally in the dozens. |
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henry29 23rd Jul 2015
| | I see those Clocks and coasters and ashtrays a lot on the Boots. I usually pick one out and say. See this one If that was flat and E-Bay You would be cashing a Cheque for £100 to 200 tomorrow. Now It's worth the £2 You asking for It. Lol. H. |
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Neil Forbes 22nd Jul 2015
| | Not all LPs are worth buying! There's quite a bit of "dross" out there on vinyl or CD but occasionally one does find a gem. Like Yesterday(I'm writing this at 12.53am, Thursday, 23rd July, 2015) I was at my local recycling centre and picked up a good-condition copy of Bill Cosby's "200 Miles An Hour" LP. Cosby at his funniest! And paid just 50 cents for it! Would I make a clock out of it? No bloody way!. I'll transfer the contents to CD at my first chance. |
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Neil Forbes 22nd Jul 2015
| | In my case, RC, from Vinyl to CD! (I've actually used that as a title for some of my home-burn CDs). |
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Record Collector 22nd Jul 2015
| | From the master to digital way it should sound |
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Neil Forbes 22nd Jul 2015
| | @TopPopper: "....it's what's in the binary data track that counts" Did Berry Gordy really say THAT? Maybe he would've if he could borrow Dr. Who's tardis and travel forward in time..... As for me. I remaster my old vinyl onto CD using Sony Sound Forge to process the tracks into MP3 audio files, then burning them to disc using a Roxio programme for that purpose. I know I really shouldn't use the term "remaster" but for want of better terminology...... |
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23skidoo 22nd Jul 2015
| | @TopPopper I can provide many examples compared first-hand where the "crackly old vinyl" is actually superior to CD issues. I believe that music recorded for the medium will sound better in that medium. CDs eliminate crackles and skips (well, actually, not always on the latter once they start to break down a little over time. Again, first-hand experience), but they often sacrifice high end and other elements. I have an extensive collection of Elvis and Bill Haley and I've had the chance to listen to both side by side and even competently mastered CDs tend not to sound as good as the vinyl. And I have vinyl from the 1950s that's been taken care of and it sounds perfectly fine on a half-decent turntable. But stuff recorded digitally in the 1990s, 2000s, 2010s, I agree does not sound as good on vinyl. |
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TopPopper 21st Jul 2015
| | Records are lovely things, but we shouldn't lose sight of the fact that the medium is not the message. Give me Ziggy Stardust on remastered CD any day, above crackly old vinyl. As Berry Gordy might say, it's what's in the binary data track that counts. |
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23skidoo 21st Jul 2015
| | @Monolith. I think it's a sign of contempt for physical media. They're doing it to books too. |
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Monolith 21st Jul 2015
| | There's so many of these clocks being made from vinyl singles and LPs, which is bad enough but the other week I saw some dude on eBay selling coasters made from the centre labels of singles.
They cut off the actual playing portion leaving just the label, then varnish it for protection.
They say the singles aren't worthy as players. But shouldn't that be in the eyes of a potential buyer.
I buy singles these days and a lot of them are fillers for my collection, there may be scratches maybe jumps but I'm after the label variation but not separated from the rest of the disc.
It's funny that the ones they have are lovely condition labels, so I wouldn't imagine there was too much wrong with the single as a whole before they chopped it up. |
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23skidoo 21st Jul 2015
| | I saw something very offensive as a vinyl lover the other day. It was a story about how people were taking "useless" vinyl records and turning them into art pieces and the like. And there was a shot of a guy standing in front of huge shelving unit filled with LPs and saying, "Raw materials." Way to disrespect the time and talent that went into making those "raw materials" just so you could make something to hang up in a corner. I rue the day that I might see an LP or 45 "transformed" into a clock or an ashtray that happens to be a record I've been looking for for years. Though I will not hesitate to tell someone if their $10 "record art" would actually be worth thousands on eBay if they'd left it as a record... |
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Neil Forbes 21st Jul 2015
| | @Monolith "Yep!" I'll go along with that. |
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Monolith 21st Jul 2015
| | Broken vinyl is sadder, CDs can never have the life that a piece of vinyl has.
CDs are soulless and expendable.
Modern vinyl is pretty lifeless too, all this 180g rubbish but the stuff back in the day is awesome.
Full of life and energy and dare I say it, romantic and poetic. |
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Neil Forbes 21st Jul 2015
| | I don't know what's sadder, broken vinyl or broken plastic CDs. Probably the vinyl as that's what most of us grew up with(those of us born after 1950, that is!) |
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Record Collector 21st Jul 2015
| | Yes Neil it's now very compact compact disc get it haha |
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Neil Forbes 21st Jul 2015
| | Ooooo-oooohhhh! All that busted black plastic lying on the ground - so sad, so sad! Make a good man turn bad(attempt at poetry there, y'all!). |
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zabadak 20th Jul 2015
| | You nedded dedication to wacth a whole edition of this... :erk: |
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