45worlds
Vinyl Albums



Vinyl Album

Artist:The Heartbreakers
Title:L.A.M.F.
Label:  Track
Country:UK
Catalogue:2409 218
Date:30 Sep 1977
Format:LP
Genre:Punk
Collection:  I Own It     I Want It 
Community: 11 Own
Price Guide:Valuation Page
» Search eBay #AD  » Search Amazon #AD
This site contains affiliate links for which we may be compensated.
PRICE GUIDE
?

Add Valuation


TrackArtistTitleComposerRating
A1The HeartbreakersBorn To LoseThunders8.0  Rate
A2The HeartbreakersBaby TalkThunders7.0  Rate
A3The HeartbreakersAll By MyselfLure, Nolan7.0  Rate
A4The HeartbreakersI Wanna Be LovedThunders7.0  Rate
A5The HeartbreakersIt's Not EnoughThunders8.0  Rate
A6The HeartbreakersChinese RocksDee Dee Ramone, Thunders, Nolan, Meyers8.0  Rate
B1The HeartbreakersGet Off The PhoneLure, Nolan8.0  Rate
B2The HeartbreakersPirate LoveThunders7.0  Rate
B3The HeartbreakersOne Track MindLure, Nolan8.0  Rate
B4The HeartbreakersI Love YouThunders7.0  Rate
B5The HeartbreakersGoin' SteadyThunders6.0  Rate
B6The HeartbreakersLet GoThunders, Nolan8.0  Rate


Notes

Produced by Speedy Keen and Daniel Secunda


Images


[ +1 more ]


Comments and Reviews
 
Lee Wrecker
6th Sep 2021
 Thunders is often associated with the saying "snatching defeat from the jaws of victory" and this album is a very good example of that. Perhaps, the only really well produced Thunders' album is the Steve Lillywhite produced 1978 solo follow up album "So Alone". By then though the Heartbreakers were back in the USA and Thunders used a cavalcade of musicians from the UK rock scene and underground to back him on that album.

After "So Alone" Thunders returned to the States to form the ill-fated Gang War with Wayne Kramer. Then it was all downhill from there.
 

 
getalife
25th Aug 2021
 That also makes sense, or pass the buck.
 

 
Magic Marmalade
25th Aug 2021
 Thanks getalife...

...I do wonder if those production credits give away the truth here... Speedy Keen producer with Danny Secunda... but later "Special Thanks to Danny Secunda" ...did Speedy make amess of it, and Secunda get called into bail him out?

(The deadwax message by Porky might allude to it too.... "Speedy's Hic de fic"? - Speedy's F£*k up ?)
 

 
getalife
25th Aug 2021
 A good review Matt, makes total sense to me. Almost like someone in the audience recording at a concert quality.
 

 
Magic Marmalade
25th Aug 2021
 Review
Notoriously bad pressing... but not quite the whole story.

I found a copy of this the other day (along with a US copy of Violent Femmes first album - sweet! :) in a charity shop...

...While not really a great punk fan, as a lot of it seems fairly same-y, tuneless, artless fluff.

...Anyway, my personal gripes aside, I recognised the band's name, as being something of a big wheel in this area, along with the immediately recognisable "Johnny Thunders" name on the back, which together caused a little bell to go off inside my head - or maybe my crate digger's "spidey sense" got to a-tingling... so I grabbed it then and there, for two whole English pounds - sleeve a little worn around the edges, ring wear, and some small wear on the print on the cover, but the record inside, well that was stone cold mint!

And so, the story of the audio on the disc begins...

...Having got it home, I began to look into the background of this album online (as you do), and saw time and again that the most notable aspect of this first issue, and the reputation that comes with it, is how bad a pressing it is... that the music / audio is said to be very "muddy" sounding, and pretty lousy in general.

So I made a priority of getting it on the turntable, to see if it was so.

My disc, being mint, would reveal immediately if this was simply people just having a bad copy, or if the actual pressing of all copies was as bad as they say...

...And it is.... kind of...

Because the first thing I noticed is how quiet the audio is on the disc... from the outset, I had to turn up the volume to hear it at normal levels... The opposite of what you'd be aiming for in this kind of music, I'd have thought!

...This, in turn brought something else to the fore - the bass and drums at this volume begin to "womp - womp" along in an unsettling, and unpleasant way that starts to overwhelm the other instruments and vocals- both lead, and backing, which are very thin, even weak, and which, along with the guitars, get squashed almost to nothing the louder you try to go.

Of course, the easy thing to do is simply turn up the volume, and turn down the bass, on you kit, but this does nothing for the experience really, as now it sounds quite pasty and washed out.

So is this an unfathomably rare mis-step form the legendary Mr. Porky, pressing impresario extraordinaire... who just fouled up putting this music on the disc?
I'd say not, as these simple shortcomings are not entirely consistent across the album.

This, as they say, is where the plot thickens...

...As if it was down to Porky, logically, it should be consistently bad all the way through, but it isn't:

The whole of side 1 is the same in this sense, but it immediately strikes you, from the off, how much better side 2 is, well, at least the first four songs, sounding broader, louder, and crisper, and with the lead vocal being bolder... "Goin' Steady" drops back to the standard of the first side, before picking up again for the last track.
Now the other feature of this sound, is how "Demo-ish" this whole thing sounds, like the group all got together in a single small room and just jammed while someone recorded from one single fixed point: Drum and bass closest the mic(s), then further away, the guitar, then somehow, all the singing done at the far end of the room... but on the side 2 tracks, that improve the sound, it sounds like they are more professionally arranged and recorded, and with a different mic for the vocal (Has that almost through-a-megaphone quality to it).

So in a nutshell, it sounds generally a bit fusty, thin, and weak, under too strong bass and drums, but crucially it sounds like two separate recording sessions, both set up differently and with great differences in competence, that have later had their track orders rearranged for side 2 - so a track from a side1 session finds it's way on to side 2, jammed between the other side 2 sessions, and suffering by contrast, as a result. So you cannot really blame your man Porky here, he could only work with what he'd been given - a crap recording!

The saving grace of this, is in fact the type of music it is... it being Punk, the Done-It-Ourselves (Badly) quality can be thought of as quite in keeping with the idea and attitude they wanted to convey, and this would be simply horrendous if this was any other kind of music....That, and that this is fairly short album (32 mins or so) means the headache you would otherwise have had doesn't quite take hold.

Perhaps this pressing / issue is better thought of as an important punk era artefact, and bought - when bought - as that... But if it's the music you are after, best look to the later issues that sought to remedy these problems.

9 people found this review helpful.   ✔︎ Helpful Review?
 

 
Lee Wrecker
20th Aug 2016
 Albert, you're right this should NOT be listed as Heartbreakers [UK] but Heartbreakers (on the cover) or The Heartbreakers (on the LP) as both are used on the packaging. They did of course as nearly everyone knows come from New York City (USA). I'm not sure though whether we should link this to LAMF Revisited (1980's remix or the album you mention in you're comment) as the track order is slightly different and technically one of them has a different name. What do other people think about linking LAMF to LAMF Revisited? I'll send a correction on the name of the band though.
 

 
albert
19th Aug 2016
 Band listed as Heartbreakers [UK], surely a mistake.
I have the remixed version of the LP from about 10 years ago, the notes state that the original LP has an appalling mix, but I don't own an original copy to verify that.
 

 
janiejjones
12th Nov 2013
 Deadwax A: (stamped facing inwards) 2409218 A // 2 M 1 1 2 (etched facing outwards) A PORKY PRIME CUT SPEEDY'S HIC DE FIC
B: (stamped facing inwards) 2409218 B // 2 M 1 1 2 (etched facing outwards) A PORKY PRIME CUT S K GENIUS
 


Add a Comment or Review about this album


See Also

Vinyl Album
The Heartbreakers - Live At Max's Kansas City - Beggars Banquet - UK (1979)
Next by Artist
Vinyl Album
Shakin' Stevens - Shakin' Stevens - Track - UK (1978)
Next on Label
Vinyl Album
The Who - Meaty, Beaty, Big And Bouncy - Track - UK (1976)
Previous on Label
Vinyl Album
The Heartbreakers - L.A.M.F. Definitive Edition - Jungle - UK (2013)
Later reworking
Vinyl Album
Johnny Thunders And The Heartbreakers - L.A.M.F. Revisited - Jungle - UK (1985)
Later reworking

Lists

Polydor album discography 1969-1982 (2409 200 - 2409 018) [UK (Track)] - 12 Vinyl Albums - List by Js_and_Bs

Tags:  Pressing Plant: Phonodisc Ltd.

This Record:  Price Guide  :  Add Valuation  :  Add Image  :  Add Video  :  Add Missing Info  :  Make Correction  :  Add See Also  :  Add Linked Release  :  Add to List  :  Add Tag  :  Show Image Data  :  Edit Images  :  BBCode  :  Credits
45worlds website ©2024  :  Homepage  :  Search  :  Sitemap  :  Help Page  :  Privacy  :  Terms  :  Contact  :  Share This Page  :  Like us on Facebook
Vinyl Albums  :  Live Music  :  78 RPM  :  CD Albums  :  CD Singles  :  12" Singles  :  7" Singles  :  Tape Media  :  Classical Music  :  Music Memorabilia  :  Cinema  :  TV Series  :  DVD & Blu-ray  :  Magazines  :  Books  :  Video Games  :  Create Your Own World
Latest  »  Items  :  Comments  :  Price Guide  :  Reviews  :  Ratings  :  Images  :  Lists  :  Videos  :  Tags  :  Collected  :  Wanted  :  Top 50  :  Random
45worlds for music, movies, books etc  :  45cat for 7" singles  :  45spaces for hundreds more worlds