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liskeard78s 6th Jun 2021		78 RPM Annette Hanshaw - We Just Couldn't Say Goodbye / Love Me Tonight	Hello - just uploaded 2 labels - sorry that they've come up back-to-front (I should have done the A-side first). I've not worked out a way of deleting / restarting. But never mind. [mod- swapped] This is the actual item that sold for £28 on Ebay just this week. (Sure, I was outbid.) In the description the seller says the B-side becomes a bit dull towards the end. Now, I had a copy of this many years ago and found the same problem. Could this be the same copy turning up again or was it a fault with all or many of the pressings, perhaps as the stamper wore out? Who can say? David :-)
liskeard78s 5th Jun 2021		78 RPM The Beatles - Michelle / You Won't See Me	Correction and updates added 7 Jan 2023. Hi Beatle Lew / Tylerl - I make it 23 with a possible 24th... (Numbers in brackets are the number of DIFFERENT copies I've seen.) DPE.159 (9), 164 (9), 167 (5), 168 (6), 172 (8), 178 (5), 179 (10), 180 (2), 183 (1), 184 (3), (185-? there is no photo as yet) 186 (3), 187 (2) .... Next would be DPE.188 ''Nowhere Man'' but absolutely no certainty about that one. DPE.190 and 192 do appear in lists but only in lists. They could be mere speculation... R.4949 (9), 4983 (8), 5015 (1), 5055 (8), 5084 (10), 5114 (5), 5160 (15) the Indians loved their cinema!, 5200 (5), 5265 (2), 5305 (6), 5389 (6)... (Next would of course be R.5452 ''Paperback Writer'' / ''Rain'' if it exists. I have seen it reported that R.5493 ''Yellow Submarine'' / ''Eleanor Rigby'' was issued on 78 - but was it just someone's dubious memory? Mid-1966 is surely stretching it.) (B.t.w. R.4949 ''Love Me Do'' is dated 1964.) Just for the record (ha!) I have these numbers for the 17 (or 30) Philippines 78s : EG.8883-1 (4), PAR.1206-1 (-), PAL.60101 (9), 60102 (1), 60103 (4), 60104 (7), 60105 (3), 60106 (5), 60107 (1), 60161 (7), 60197 (7), 60217 (2), 60218 (12), 60219 (-), 60220 (-), 60255 (-), 60262 (-), 60263 (5), 60269 (-), 60270 (-), 60271 (-), 60272 (-), 60273 (-), 60274 (-), 60282 (3), 60283 (6), 60284 (8), 60287 (4), 60262 (-), 60323 (-) (-) = none found anywhere on the internet to date. And 3 from S.America : 75202 (6), NCO 300855 (5), 300938 (3). (There, now I can throw away this paper envelope with all these scribbles on it.) (p.s. Apparently India went on making 78s well into the 1970s - but not necessarily Western pop music. Latest other artists I've seen on Indian 78s : Eddie Calvert, Cliff Richard, The Shadows, The Dave Clark Five - all 1965 - and The Swinging Blue Jeans - 1964.)
liskeard78s 4th Jun 2021		78 RPM The Beatles - Hey Jude / Revolution	Still no evidence of its existence - yet. There was a short while ago a white label demo on Ebay of a 5 min. version of "Hey Jude" / "Revolution". Pretending to be made in India. It looks like a fake and I'm quite sure it is. The labels are way too clean and any amateur with the relevant equipment could have dubbed it from a record any time. There is still no evidence of any Beatles 78 after "Michelle" / "You Won't See Me", early 66. Even the next-numbered "Nowhere Man" hasn't turned up yet. So who do they think they are kidding, to say that a 78 made well over 2 yeara later in 1968 really existed? It is possible (rumour has it) that "Paperback Writer" / "Rain" and "Yellow Submarine" / "Eleanor Rigby" did exist - but they haven't yet turned up. That takes us to the middle of '66, still 2 years before "Hey Jude". DP.570 is the number of the Indian 45 (same as the Netherlands). The 78 would not have the number DP.570. It is known that India kept making 78s well into the 1970s, sure, but not Western pop music. (Latest I've found of other artists are all 1965 : Cliff Richard, Shadows, Eddie Calvert, Dave Clark Five. Nothing at all of 1966, so far, only "Michelle".) Just putting the lid on it. I'd like to see this item and a few others ("Ob-La-Di" for example) simply removed. Until scans of the actual labels turn up - and then I still won't immediately believe they're not faked without some real confirmation! Born yesterday I was not.
liskeard78s 4th Jun 2021		78 RPM The Beatles - Lady Madonna / The Inner Light	Still no evidence of its existence - yet.
liskeard78s 4th Jun 2021		78 RPM The Beatles - Ob-La-Di, Ob-La-Da / While My Guitar Gently Weeps	Still no evidence of its existence - yet. Silly to even think of it. No Beatles 78 later than "Michelle" (early 66) has been shown to exist so far. "Paperback Writer" / "Rain" and "Yellow Sub." / "E.Rigby" are said to have been made but that was 2 years before this title. Ridiculous.
liskeard78s 4th Jun 2021		78 RPM The Beatles - Hello Goodbye / I Am The Walrus	Still no evidence of its existence - yet. But this would be so much later than the last known - ''Michelle'' / '' You Won't See Me'' (early 1966) so 'tis possibly not possible... (Last known in the R series is ''Day Tripper'' / ''We Can Work It Out''. Next would have been ''Paperback Writer'' / ''Rain'', followed by.... I have read that ''Yellow Submarine'' exists on 78 but who knows what to believe!) (Anything later is probably dreamland. The white label acetate of ''Hey Jude'' seen lately on Ebay is surely a fake.)
liskeard78s 4th Jun 2021		78 RPM The Beatles - Nowhere Man / Girl	No evidence of its existence - yet. But this would be the next one after the last known - ''Michelle'' / '' You Won't See Me'' (early 1966) so 'tis possible... (Last known in the R series is ''Day Tripper'' / ''We Can Work It Out''. Next would be ''Paperback Writer'' / ''Rain'', followed by.... I have read that ''Yellow Submarine'' exists on 78 but who knows what to believe!) (Anything later is probably dreamland. The white label acetate of ''Hey Jude'' seen lately on Ebay is surely a fake.)
liskeard78s 4th Jun 2021		78 RPM The Beatles - Here There And Everywhere / Good Day Sunshine	No evidence of its existence - yet. But this would be much later than the last known - ''Michelle'' / '' You Won't See Me'' (early 1966) so 'tis possibly not possible... (Last known in the R series is ''Day Tripper'' / ''We Can Work It Out''. Next would have been ''Paperback Writer'' / ''Rain'', followed by.... I have read that ''Yellow Submarine'' exists on 78 but who knows what to believe!) (Anything later is probably dreamland. The white label acetate of ''Hey Jude'' seen lately on Ebay is surely a fake.)
liskeard78s 10th Nov 2018		78 RPM Marty Robbins - The Story Of My Life / Once-A-Week Date	Was ''A White Sport Coat'' issued on 78 in UK? Can't find it here anywhere!
liskeard78s 29th Oct 2018		78 RPM Various Artists - Voice Of The Stars No. 1	Yes, 1934. Contains what I think may be the earliest film soundtrack on a ''single'' record, Janet Gaynor singing ''IF I HAD A TALKING PICTURE OF YOU'' from ''Sunnyside Up'', 1929. Most of the other films (I looked them all up in a Halliwells book a long time ago) were made about 1933-34. (Laurel & Hardy's entry is from ''Sons Of The Desert''. Charles Laughton appears in - if I remember correctly - ''The Six Wives of Henry VIII''. Can't think what the Gracie Fields one is but the song featured is ''He's Dead But He Won't Lie Down''.) There were five records in the series, VS.2, VS.3, VS.4 and finally another Regal Zono. one possibly MR.1822 or something like that, one each year from 1934-38. The VS ones had special labels, not R.Z. The 1937 one was a ''Coronation Special''. The three VS all appear in 45worlds and should really be linked with this one, i.m.h.o., even if they may not be actual R.Z. issues. Shirley Temple features at the start of three of the series. Without Shirley Temple the whole film industry might have collapsed due to Depression. (That fact from a book titled ''Vinyl Dave's Favourite Record Labels''.)
liskeard78s 20th Sep 2018		78 RPM Fred Astaire And Jane Powell - How Could You Believe Me When I Said I Loved You When You Know I've Been A Liar All My Life / Too Late Now	I can't believe nobody has commented on this one yet. Longest title. (I know there are three maybe longer titles (on singles) - Faces, Fairport Convention and Emerson, Lake & Palmer, but all three titles do not occur in a song.)
liskeard78s 27th Aug 2018		78 RPM The Beatles - I'll Follow The Sun / Words Of Love	Thank you, xiphophilos! :-)
liskeard78s 27th Aug 2018		78 RPM The Beatles - Michelle / You Won't See Me	Much speculation but no pictures ; Michelle / You Won't See Me is indeed the last confirmed. Somewhere on another website the later cat.nos. were listed which I've included on the Hey Jude 78 page.)
liskeard78s 27th Aug 2018		78 RPM The Beatles - Michelle / You Won't See Me	(A note of thanks to the powers-that-be for reorganising the pictures. Much appreciated :-)
liskeard78s 26th Aug 2018		78 RPM The Beatles - I'll Follow The Sun / Words Of Love	I've also asked that the black one be demoted to second place (if not actually removed). I guess there is no way for us hoi polloi to do it. Hopefully the powers that be would consider it reasonable :-) (For a while I imagined, without really thinking, that the black was a variant, maybe a later pressing! - Duh - Which is why I suggest the black ones perhaps ought to be taken off now.)
liskeard78s 26th Aug 2018		78 RPM The Beatles - I'll Follow The Sun / Words Of Love	I've colorized the black label uploaded by An6y66 and replaced it with red - really a black one (alongside the red) is misleading because there was never any black label except photocopied or taken from a book. (In this case an identical b/w image is also found on www.cool78s.) (See also You Won't See Me).
liskeard78s 26th Aug 2018		78 RPM The Beatles - Michelle / You Won't See Me	I've colorized the black label uploaded by an6y66 and replaced it with red - really a black one (alongside the red) is misleading because there was never any black label except photocopied or taken from a book. (In this case an identical b/w image is also found on www.cool78s.) (See also I'll Follow The Sun).
liskeard78s 25th Aug 2018		78 RPM The Beatles - Hey Jude / Revolution	@ Break-In Master, I hate to spoil your fun but that German record from Keith S. plays for 7.43, exactly one minute less than your best optimistic calculation. (So where did they get their ''18 minuten''? I guess 9 mins. per side was technically possible on a 12'' disc but it does look a bit of a stretch. Maybe they were hoping nobody would disbelieve them and check?) Similarly a note on early H.M.V. 7'' E.P.s, singing the praises of the new microgroove vinyl, gave a possible playing time far greater than ever became the norm. I have some Philips classical ones (with hardly any space for a run-out groove) which stretch the limits. (Am I stretching the off-topic limits? Anyway, the 1973 Best Of British E.P. on Atlantic is the best example I've found, over 11 mins. on one side at 45 r.p.m., outgrooving Steve Harley's Sebastian (Live) of 1975 and knocking spots off Slade's 1971 B-side. Makes Hey Jude look like a quickie. Dorothy Provine becomes a dot by comparison. And Adam Faith! . . . Sorry, getting carried away now - you may hope.)
liskeard78s 25th Aug 2018		78 RPM The Beatles - Hey Jude / Revolution	On the subject of speculation . . . if you wade through all the Beatles 78s in here, the latest one you can actually see is Michelle / You Won't See Me, DPE.187, early 1966 presumably. There is no reason to doubt that, therefore, Nowhere Man / Girl, DPE.188 existed even though they are not pictured. But Nowhere is there any mention here of the next disc in the R. series after Day Tripper / We Can Work It Out (again late 1965), being Paperback Writer / Rain, mid-1966. Followed soon after by Yellow Submarine / Eleanor Rigby, all in the summer of 1966 when the Revolver LP also came out. From that album Good Day Sunshine / Here There And Everywhere, DPE.190 * is a reasonable number to exist. (What might have been DPE.189, I wonder?) * CORRECTION (added 27 Aug.) : According to another website, DPE.189 is Good Day Sunshine / Here There And Everywhere, DPE.190 is Hey Jude / Revolution, DPE.192 is Ob-La-Di, Ob-La-Da / While My Guitar Gently Weeps, which leaves a question mark on DPE.191. This too may be nothing more than speculation since I don't know where they got their figures from. Apparently E.M.I. India kept making 78s until at least 1971 but not necessarily Western pop music. (This is also stated in a book ''Vinyl Dave's Favourite Record Labels'' - yet to be published, I'm told, at time of writing.) If DPE.192 was really Ob-La-Di, Ob-La-Da / While My Guitar Gently Weeps we are looking at late 1968, two years further on and we've bypassed Sgt. Pepper!! (Maybe there was a potential DPE.191.) And well, if DPE.192 ever came out as suggested that does make Hey Jude / Revolution a possibility in the timescale of things. But nobody has mentioned (or indeed shown a picture of) Penny Lane, Strawberry Fields Forever, Hello Goodbye or All You Need Is Love . . . Or Fool On The Hill. Come on people, make with the pictures - we need some evidence! - (No, not just pictures that can be ''manufactured'', let's see them playing on YouTube - and not with a steel needle, please!) (Sure, bee in bonnet :-)
liskeard78s 25th Aug 2018		78 RPM The Beatles - Hey Jude / Revolution	The speculation stops here, methinks. Note the DP.500 series cat.no. stated here for Hey Jude. All the Indian Parlophone 78s found in this website - lots of them - have DPE.100 numbers. (The equivalent 45s had DP cat.nos.) Although India kept making 78s until the early 70s they may not have been Western pop music. As for playing time, if Hey Jude does exist on 78, there's no reason they shouldn't have faded it down to say 6 mins. (But that is total speculation on my part.) I have foreign, Indian-type music, on 45s with very fine grooves that play for over 5 mins. but vinyl 45s were made for finer playing equipment than mechanical 78 players with steel needles. (Likewise, the long-playing Solitaire mail-order 78s I mentioned earlier, being pressed on vinyl, were really intended for modern 3-speed players with a stylus. The fine grooves wouldn't pick up so well on an acoustic machine.) There. What I don't understand is, why don't 78s of She Loves You or A Hard Day's Night turn up more often? If they really are worth so much, wouldn't there be more of them on Ebay when people get short of money? (They can't have all been lost, washed away in the floods, can they?)
liskeard78s 8th Aug 2017		78 RPM The Beatles - Hey Jude / Revolution	I guess Hey Jude would have been on Parlophone . . .
liskeard78s 8th Aug 2017		78 RPM The Beatles - Hey Jude / Revolution	Of course! I remember now! ''Record of the Week'' made by Solitaire (and I think the same under another label in America / Canada), they had very fine grooves and three tunes on each side - dreadful recordings mostly so I didn't think to keep them! Unfortunately they were unbreakable - ha ha - because it was some kind of mail order thing.
liskeard78s 30th Jul 2017		78 RPM The Beatles - Hey Jude / Revolution	Break-In Master - you have 3 78s of the 40s-50s that play up to 10 mins per side? Pray, what are they? We would love to know. In the early 30s, Durium, Broadcast and Homophone (4-in-1) made 78s with very fine grooves that played for just short of 5 mins. They gave it up within a year or so because I think they wore out easily or because people were tired of having to wind up the gramophone before the end of a side. Also any bass sounds had to be restricted. Earlier than that, about 1920, Edison made "Diamond" 78s with fine hill-and-dale grooves that played just short of 5 mins. (Some played at 74 rpm.) Excellent sound quality for the acoustic era - but as I recall they were fairly quiet. They could have been extended a little by using a smaller label but I don't think he ever did. Attempts were made in the late 20s using variable speed (slower speed at the edge) but it needed a special player so it didn't take off. The first 78 that I ever saw using variable width grooves was a German Polydor that played for I think over six mins. (It was cracked so I didn't keep it.) Variable grooves became commoner after the late 50s, but on 78s I've only seen them on Pye and possibly Philips. By that time most singles were barely 2 mins. so EMI and Decca didn't go there. So . . . Break-In Master please reply!! A couple of spoken-word 78s by Bernard Miles on HMV in the early 50s had very fine grooves - which played for about 4 mins per side . . . 10 mins??? You must be joking!! Please reply!!

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