78 RPM - The Beatles - Hey Jude / Revolution - Parlophone - India

78 RPM Record

Artist:	The Beatles
Label:	Parlophone
Country:	India
Catalogue:	DP. 570
Date:	Sep 1968
Format:	10"
Collection:	I Own It I Want It
Community:	5 Want
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Track	Artist	Title	Composer	Rating
A	The Beatles	Hey Jude	Lennon, McCartney	Rate
B	The Beatles	Revolution	Lennon, McCartney	Rate

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liskeard78s 23rd Jul 2023		Thomas Edison - yes it was he! - made a short (experimental) series of long playing 78s in 1926. You had to buy a new record player to play them! - I now have four of the damn things - two 10'' ones play for 12 mins. per side (as stated on the labels) and the two 12" ones are supposed to play for 20 !! mins. per side. Haven't yet managed to check one. Fine grooves??? > Now, just take any modern 33 rpm LP and play it at 78. See if you can find one that plays for 20 mins.!!!!!



liskeard78s 26th Dec 2022		p.s. And a Russian Melodia Elvis 78, made in 1969 apparently, if not 1968. ''I Believe In The Man In The Sky''. (But he's not on the flipside.)



xiphophilos 3rd Jul 2022		The "18 Top Hits" label was from Harrison, NJ. (produced by Waldorf Record Corp.). I'm not aware of a "10 Top Hits" label.



Break-In Master 2nd Jul 2022		Okay, I'm here at my grandmother's house and found 2 of the 3 78's I mentioned. They are on a label from Harrison, N.J., called, 10 Top Hits. I have record numbers 106 and 108 so, I'm guessing the missing one is 107. As each one has 3 banded songs on each side, that'd mean that they were sold as a set of three records which would total 18 songs. In this case, they are all Xmas songs. The rills between tracks only run 1/4 to 1/3 of a revolution. The music is all organ and chimes.



liskeard78s 30th Jun 2021		Me again - I just want to add that since I wrote that (below) I have found several 78s later than 1965. Jim Reeves (dated 1966), Desmond Dekker (!!) 1967, and Willie Mitchell 1968. Not to mention Tiny Tim 1969 but that isn't the real article (i.e. a gimmick, not a regular release in a foreign country). So where are all those Beatles 78s made since ''Michelle''??? There have been 4 different copies of ''Day Tripper''/''We Can Work It Out'' discovered and photographed, 2 in here and 2 on Ebay (definitely 4 different copies)... ''Michelle'' / ''You Won't See Me'' and ''Drive My Car'' / ''Norwegian Wood'' have been shown to exist, though only in one copy each - despite turning up on 4 different websites. The next, still missing - unconfirmed, would be another 2 tracks from ''Rubber Soul'', ''Nowhere Man'' / ''Girl''. And if ''Paperback Writer'' and ''Yellow Submarine'' do exist, where are they? .. So who says ''Hey Jude'' actually exists on 78? What nutcase? I'll believe it when I see it - maybe.



liskeard78s 4th Jun 2021		Still no evidence of its existence - yet. There was a short while ago a white label demo on Ebay of a 5 min. version of "Hey Jude" / "Revolution". Pretending to be made in India. It looks like a fake and I'm quite sure it is. The labels are way too clean and any amateur with the relevant equipment could have dubbed it from a record any time. There is still no evidence of any Beatles 78 after "Michelle" / "You Won't See Me", early 66. Even the next-numbered "Nowhere Man" hasn't turned up yet. So who do they think they are kidding, to say that a 78 made well over 2 yeara later in 1968 really existed? It is possible (rumour has it) that "Paperback Writer" / "Rain" and "Yellow Submarine" / "Eleanor Rigby" did exist - but they haven't yet turned up. That takes us to the middle of '66, still 2 years before "Hey Jude". DP.570 is the number of the Indian 45 (same as the Netherlands). The 78 would not have the number DP.570. It is known that India kept making 78s well into the 1970s, sure, but not Western pop music. (Latest I've found of other artists are all 1965 : Cliff Richard, Shadows, Eddie Calvert, Dave Clark Five. Nothing at all of 1966, so far, only "Michelle".) Just putting the lid on it. I'd like to see this item and a few others ("Ob-La-Di" for example) simply removed. Until scans of the actual labels turn up - and then I still won't immediately believe they're not faked without some real confirmation! Born yesterday I was not.



xiphophilos 27th Mar 2019		The doubts that this record exists are shared by Frank Daniels, cf. https://wwww.friktech.com/btls/in/in78.pdf



liskeard78s 25th Aug 2018		@ Break-In Master, I hate to spoil your fun but that German record from Keith S. plays for 7.43, exactly one minute less than your best optimistic calculation. (So where did they get their ''18 minuten''? I guess 9 mins. per side was technically possible on a 12'' disc but it does look a bit of a stretch. Maybe they were hoping nobody would disbelieve them and check?) Similarly a note on early H.M.V. 7'' E.P.s, singing the praises of the new microgroove vinyl, gave a possible playing time far greater than ever became the norm. I have some Philips classical ones (with hardly any space for a run-out groove) which stretch the limits. (Am I stretching the off-topic limits? Anyway, the 1973 Best Of British E.P. on Atlantic is the best example I've found, over 11 mins. on one side at 45 r.p.m., outgrooving Steve Harley's Sebastian (Live) of 1975 and knocking spots off Slade's 1971 B-side. Makes Hey Jude look like a quickie. Dorothy Provine becomes a dot by comparison. And Adam Faith! . . . Sorry, getting carried away now - you may hope.)



liskeard78s 25th Aug 2018		On the subject of speculation . . . if you wade through all the Beatles 78s in here, the latest one you can actually see is Michelle / You Won't See Me, DPE.187, early 1966 presumably. There is no reason to doubt that, therefore, Nowhere Man / Girl, DPE.188 existed even though they are not pictured. But Nowhere is there any mention here of the next disc in the R. series after Day Tripper / We Can Work It Out (again late 1965), being Paperback Writer / Rain, mid-1966. Followed soon after by Yellow Submarine / Eleanor Rigby, all in the summer of 1966 when the Revolver LP also came out. From that album Good Day Sunshine / Here There And Everywhere, DPE.190 * is a reasonable number to exist. (What might have been DPE.189, I wonder?) * CORRECTION (added 27 Aug.) : According to another website, DPE.189 is Good Day Sunshine / Here There And Everywhere, DPE.190 is Hey Jude / Revolution, DPE.192 is Ob-La-Di, Ob-La-Da / While My Guitar Gently Weeps, which leaves a question mark on DPE.191. This too may be nothing more than speculation since I don't know where they got their figures from. Apparently E.M.I. India kept making 78s until at least 1971 but not necessarily Western pop music. (This is also stated in a book ''Vinyl Dave's Favourite Record Labels'' - yet to be published, I'm told, at time of writing.) If DPE.192 was really Ob-La-Di, Ob-La-Da / While My Guitar Gently Weeps we are looking at late 1968, two years further on and we've bypassed Sgt. Pepper!! (Maybe there was a potential DPE.191.) And well, if DPE.192 ever came out as suggested that does make Hey Jude / Revolution a possibility in the timescale of things. But nobody has mentioned (or indeed shown a picture of) Penny Lane, Strawberry Fields Forever, Hello Goodbye or All You Need Is Love . . . Or Fool On The Hill. Come on people, make with the pictures - we need some evidence! - (No, not just pictures that can be ''manufactured'', let's see them playing on YouTube - and not with a steel needle, please!) (Sure, bee in bonnet :-)



liskeard78s 25th Aug 2018		The speculation stops here, methinks. Note the DP.500 series cat.no. stated here for Hey Jude. All the Indian Parlophone 78s found in this website - lots of them - have DPE.100 numbers. (The equivalent 45s had DP cat.nos.) Although India kept making 78s until the early 70s they may not have been Western pop music. As for playing time, if Hey Jude does exist on 78, there's no reason they shouldn't have faded it down to say 6 mins. (But that is total speculation on my part.) I have foreign, Indian-type music, on 45s with very fine grooves that play for over 5 mins. but vinyl 45s were made for finer playing equipment than mechanical 78 players with steel needles. (Likewise, the long-playing Solitaire mail-order 78s I mentioned earlier, being pressed on vinyl, were really intended for modern 3-speed players with a stylus. The fine grooves wouldn't pick up so well on an acoustic machine.) There. What I don't understand is, why don't 78s of She Loves You or A Hard Day's Night turn up more often? If they really are worth so much, wouldn't there be more of them on Ebay when people get short of money? (They can't have all been lost, washed away in the floods, can they?)



liskeard78s 8th Aug 2017		I guess Hey Jude would have been on Parlophone . . .



liskeard78s 8th Aug 2017		Of course! I remember now! ''Record of the Week'' made by Solitaire (and I think the same under another label in America / Canada), they had very fine grooves and three tunes on each side - dreadful recordings mostly so I didn't think to keep them! Unfortunately they were unbreakable - ha ha - because it was some kind of mail order thing.



Break-In Master 4th Aug 2017		That's 8:43. I see it has a good bit of run-off left, they could've made it at least another minute longer. But, this is a 12", according to this listing, "Hey Jude" was a 10". With grooves of this size, plus the fact that "Hey Jude" was more "powerful" than a chorus and orchestra, I still have to wonder if they could've made the full 7:11 fit onto a 78. I'm pretty sure the 78's in question that I mentioned used some kind of microgroove. Look at most RCA 45's from the `40's and `50's, they were getting over 3:00 of music into the same space that most 45's were getting only a minute, or so.



KeithS SUBS 3rd Aug 2017		This is a long playing 78 .



Break-In Master 3rd Aug 2017		Off the top of my head, I can't recall the label name, but I remember them being maroon with silver print. The last time I recall seeing them was about 20 years ago. They were part of my grandmother's small collection. Each side had 3 full-length songs totaling just over 9:00 or just under 10:00 per side. They were a series of Christmas songs played on an organ, I'm pretty sure they even had bells (probably tubular). I couldn't believe they ran to 9:00, or so, a side, either, but I timed them! On an automatic player, you could get half an hour of music in one sitting. Back in the late `50's, her son installed outdoor extension speakers from the stereo inside to the nativity scene in the front yard and she'd play those over and over for people going by. At his house, he installed a two-way speaker system leading to the Christmas tree beside his front door and you could talk to the tree and it'd answer back. It was really him in the basement talking with a high voice, but, we thought it was a real talking Christmas tree!



liskeard78s 30th Jul 2017		Break-In Master - you have 3 78s of the 40s-50s that play up to 10 mins per side? Pray, what are they? We would love to know. In the early 30s, Durium, Broadcast and Homophone (4-in-1) made 78s with very fine grooves that played for just short of 5 mins. They gave it up within a year or so because I think they wore out easily or because people were tired of having to wind up the gramophone before the end of a side. Also any bass sounds had to be restricted. Earlier than that, about 1920, Edison made "Diamond" 78s with fine hill-and-dale grooves that played just short of 5 mins. (Some played at 74 rpm.) Excellent sound quality for the acoustic era - but as I recall they were fairly quiet. They could have been extended a little by using a smaller label but I don't think he ever did. Attempts were made in the late 20s using variable speed (slower speed at the edge) but it needed a special player so it didn't take off. The first 78 that I ever saw using variable width grooves was a German Polydor that played for I think over six mins. (It was cracked so I didn't keep it.) Variable grooves became commoner after the late 50s, but on 78s I've only seen them on Pye and possibly Philips. By that time most singles were barely 2 mins. so EMI and Decca didn't go there. So . . . Break-In Master please reply!! A couple of spoken-word 78s by Bernard Miles on HMV in the early 50s had very fine grooves - which played for about 4 mins per side . . . 10 mins??? You must be joking!! Please reply!!



Break-In Master 24th Jan 2017		No reason they had to fade the A-side sooner than normal. I've got three 10" 78's from the `40's or early `50's that run close to 10:00 per side. If they could get 10:00 on a side back then, 7:11 in 1968 would've been a piece of cake!! My question: was this 78 released on Apple? THAT'D be INTERESTING!!!!



freakbeatjames 16th Nov 2016		I remember seeing an Italian auction for this on ebay with no picture to prove it was genuine. I think it's on popsike somewhere.



Jock_Girl 28th Jan 2016		The existence of this 78 is doubtful at best



mister_tmg 27th Jan 2016		Wonder how they faded the A-side. (Presuming they did)

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