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Member	Item		Review/Comment
PhilMH SUBS ● 9th Nov 2021		Vinyl Album Delbert McClinton - Keeper Of The Flame	A 1981 release at the earliest, because the company name PolyGram Records, Inc. shown on the back cover and the labels didn't come into use until that year (I think it was a renaming of Phonogram Inc., plus Polydor Incorporated and Casablanca Records Inc. were merged into it).
PhilMH SUBS ● 31st Oct 2021		Classical Item Consortium Musicum, Wolfgang Gönnenwein - Bach: Matthäus-Passion	And...the correct label here is His Master's Voice.
PhilMH SUBS ● 31st Oct 2021		Classical Item Consortium Musicum, Wolfgang Gönnenwein - Bach: Matthäus-Passion	1969 is the copyright year of the recording, not the release date; nobody used barcodes in 1969 (first use of barcodes on recorded music was the CBS group of labels in the USA, in 1979), EMI Records Ltd company name didn't come into use until mid-1973, and EMI didn't use this style of catalogue number until the early 80's.
PhilMH SUBS ● 27th Oct 2021		CD Album John Fogerty - John Fogerty	Hi ppint, I would say no chance whatsoever! As well as the absences you have mentioned, there's no copyright text anywhere on the package or the disc, and no barcode printed on the insert - I actually wonder whether that barcode sticker belongs to a store!
PhilMH SUBS ● 21st Oct 2021		CD Album John Fogerty - John Fogerty	I think BMG Rights Management would be very interested to see this, seeing as they now have the rights to this and the rest of John Fogerty's solo catalogue (including the original Blue Ridge Rangers album on Fantasy).
PhilMH SUBS ● 20th Oct 2021		CD Album George Harrison - All Things Must Pass	Hi Lee, I think incorporating country (or countries) of manufacture into an entry could prove troublesome, as many discs with the same label and catalogue number combination were manufactured in different countries for release in the same country. The original Beatles CDs are good examples - first copies released in Australia by EMI were UK or Europe imports, with Aussie-made copies coming along in the early 90s. I have both EU (Warner Music Manufacturing) and Aussie-made copies of Paul Simon's GRACELAND, both distributed in Australia by WEA/Warner.. The best way I can think of to accommodate your suggestion is to take my own previous suggestion a stage further, in that as well as being able to add multiple release country flags for an item, that the same function be applied to manufacturing country too. Either that, or we go down the Discogs route of creating a separate entry for each variation (GOD, NO!).
PhilMH SUBS ● 20th Oct 2021		CD Album Various Artists - The Golden Age Of American Rock 'n' Roll, Volume 2	Added variant disc image from my copy, bought new from Amazon today.
PhilMH SUBS ● 18th Oct 2021		Vinyl Album Ray Charles - Ray Charles Special	Label is just Stateside, not EMI Stateside; the EMI logo on the cover just represents their corporate identity and ownership of the Stateside label brand, and is not part of the label name. EMI is only a label where there is no other label logo present, from 1973 onwards (save for the occasional custom pressing).
PhilMH SUBS ● 18th Oct 2021		Vinyl Album Brook Benton - Songs I Love To Sing	The cover here belongs to SONGS I LOVE TO SING (MG 20602), but the record (and catalogue number entered) belongs to IT'S JUST A MATTER OF TIME (MG C-20421).
PhilMH SUBS ● 16th Oct 2021		CD Album The Beatles - Let It Be	Both the catalogue number and the barcode have been entered here with one digit (6) missing; the last four digits should be 8691. And this is definitely International, as the packaging shows "Universal Music International B.V.", Universal's division that co-ordinates international domestic releases of its products. Sony Music has a similar division in Germany, which is called (drum roll) Sony Music Entertainment International Music Services GmbH. The clue's in the names, people, so it's time to sort this out once and for all! P.S. oops, didn't notice the country had already been changed, but please note the above comments for future reference!
PhilMH SUBS ● 15th Oct 2021		CD Album Various Artists - Teen Beat, Volume 2 – Another 30 Great Rockin' Instrumentals	Uploaded front, back and disc images for 2009 reissue, which has the same catalogue number and barcode. Discogs has a different disc image (made in Germany) for the 1994 issue.
PhilMH SUBS ● 6th Oct 2021		Vinyl Album Eric Burdon And The Animals - Eric Burdon And The Animals	P.S. if you ever need to know about American price codes, I can be more help, because I have a large number of Schwann catalogs, consisting of most of 1969, then late 1974 to 1980, a couple from 1981 and 1982, and then picking up more extensively from late 1987 to the catalog's demise in 2001.
PhilMH SUBS ● 6th Oct 2021		Vinyl Album Eric Burdon And The Animals - Eric Burdon And The Animals	"the well-nigh infallible and almost inexhaustible encyclopedic knowledge of philmh's memory banks may help determine" Or not! Sorry ppint, I emigrated to Australia with my family in early 1971, so the finer points of UK record company price structures are mostly beyond me, but in the past few years I have picked up (via an experienced record industry person in Discogs forums, who seems to have had contact with most of the record companies in the UK, Australia, and New Zealand) that Polydor's Standard, Super, Deluxe and Double are just prices codes as you indicate, rather than parts of a label name. Since my last comment in 2017, I have found out that Metro was used as a reissue label in Australia too, as I found a Johnny Hodges LP; Michael de Looper's Phonogram/Polygram LP list has several Aussie Metro releases (starting at the bottom of page 13), which probably have the same catalogue numbers as the UK versions.
PhilMH SUBS ● 4th Oct 2021		Vinyl Album Kim Weston - Kim, Kim, Kim	Added July 1971 as release month; this appeared on the front page of Record World dated July 17, 1971 as a "Pick Of The Week".
PhilMH SUBS ● 21st Sep 2021		CD Album Elton John - Lady Samantha	Isn't this the same as the linked European issue below, where the label is DJM (though distributed by Phonogram)?
PhilMH SUBS ● 19th Sep 2021		Vinyl Album Phoebe Snow - Phoebe Snow	Copyrighted 1974 (when it was released in the States), but Festival didn't start distributing Shelter until 1975; this entered the national album chart in the last week of August, so probably released earlier that month, unfortunately Michael de Looper's Festival listing doesn't have a date.
PhilMH SUBS ● 17th Sep 2021		Vinyl Album Dean Martin - Swingin Down Yonder	The USA pressing is probably an early 70's pressing made during the energy crisis, when several UK companies were manufacturing outside the UK. 45cat has several Polydor-group singles made in the USA with UK 7-digit catalogue numbers and UK company names (US Polydor used a different catalogue number system); similarly, within the EMI UK group, I have seen at least one UK Tamla Motown release (I think it was Stevie Wonder's INNERVISIONS) pressed in the USA with the black & silver Tamla Motown label (which wasn't used in the USA), UK catalogue number, and EMI Records Ltd. company name.
PhilMH SUBS ● 17th Sep 2021		Vinyl Album Amos Milburn - The Return Of The Blues Boss	P.S. the Don't Forget The Motor City website shows the release date as 9th April 1963; that corresponds to the April 1963 date given in Sharon Davis' 1988 book MOTOWN: THE HISTORY, where the discography was compiled by Motown UK's Gordon Frewin; DFTMC is similarly compiled from official Motown doco, the July date seems to come from Billboard not reviewing the album until then (no mentions in Cash Box or Record World, though).
PhilMH SUBS ● 17th Sep 2021		Vinyl Album Amos Milburn - The Return Of The Blues Boss	The copy shown here is presumably the second pressing (and I am amazed that this non-hit album would have had more than one pressing) - Discogs has a pressing with an earlier version of the map label, with Detroit and the star at top right, and the map covering a wider geographical area. Album was also released in Canada by Phonodisc, and probably in France by Barclay (see my comments on the linked HG reissue). Released on CD in Japan in 2013, and now internationally a digital download or stream as of today (17th September).
PhilMH SUBS ● 17th Sep 2021		Vinyl Album Amos Milburn - The Return Of The Blues Boss	Apparently, according to the booklet notes to the CD set THE COMPLETE MOTOWN SINGLES VOL. 3, 1963, this album was originally released in France in 1963 by Motown's then licensee (not named in the booklet, but presumably Barclay on their 707 label, judging by Stevie Wonder's 45 releases shown in 45cat), and complete with musician credits, which the company apparently wrote to Motown for, and a practice that continued for a couple of years until Berry Gordy got wind of it. Try as I might, though, I can't find any other mention of the 1963 release, not in Discogs, ebay, French National Library, Google, anywhere, so do any French members know if it actually existed? Anyway, as of today (17th September), the album is now available internationally as a digital download or stream (it was released on CD in Japan in 2013 too).
PhilMH SUBS ● 16th Sep 2021		Vinyl Album Creedence Clearwater Revival - Creedence Gold	I'd say that as all the catalogue numbers are numerically the same - they are all 9418 - then please, please keep them together. Discogs separates them because they are a sales site too, but that's not an issue for us, so let's keep things as simple as possible, and any dates can be included in notes and comments. I think the sequence of the label images here is correct - the first version of the brown label was essentially a larger version of the logo, with the F outline; the second brown label removed that outline, then the lightning label in about 1977 as Lee says, and then there was an all-blue/aquamarine/teal/whatever label in the early 80's. Also, I have yet to see any official record company catalogue that specifies new issue dates for later pressings of the same (or similar) catalogue numbers; in fact, there aren't many that show issue dates at all, but UK Decca did in the 70's, and they always showed the original issue date for catalogue numbers, even though their biggest sellers (Stones and Moodies in particular) would have gone through several pressings (Discogs calls those "reissues", which really gets my goat, but they are more properly "repressings" of already in-catalogue items).
PhilMH SUBS ● 1st Sep 2021		Vinyl Album Elvis Presley - Rare Elvis, Vol. 3	1988 Music Master catalogue has this as a March 1985 release in the UK, which is consistent with the Elvis 50th Anniversary sticker on the front cover. Maybe in 1983 it was continental Europe only, but RCA UK decided to import copies in 1985?
PhilMH SUBS ● 14th Aug 2021		Vinyl Album Big Tom And The Mainliners - I'll Settle For Old Ireland	The 1988 issue was probably a reissue under the same catalogue number via different distributors; the big red 1988 Music Master catalogue has a couple of other Big Tom albums on Emerald with GES numbers lower than this one, distributed by Ross Records and Solomon & Peres, so it looks like Emerald reused their old numbers after moving on from Decca, and the date in Music Master was probably correct for that edition.
PhilMH SUBS ● 14th Aug 2021		CD Album Creedence Clearwater Revival - Creedence Clearwater Revival (6CD Set)	The label should be just Fantasy; Concord is the record company.
PhilMH SUBS ● 12th Aug 2021		Vinyl Album Various Artists - Hit Singles 1958-1977	The Dusty Springfield track had to be replaced for Europe (and presumably other countries) because Atlantic had originally signed her for the US only; even the Canadian releases of DUSTY IN MEMPHIS and A BRAND NEW ME were on Philips. Mind you, WEA Canada did reissue DUSTY IN MEMPHIS on LP during the 80's, probably incorrectly assuming that Atlantic had the rights everywhere, as did Warner Music Australia in the 90's or early 00's by reissuing that album on CD, though that was quickly withdrawn once PolyGram or Universal set them straight.
PhilMH SUBS ● 7th Aug 2021		CD Album Ike And Tina Turner - Proud Mary	My copy is pressed in Holland, and has a slight variation on the back cover, in that it has a different French price code (not catalogue number) PM 520, and it is placed underneath the barcode instead of beside it. I bought it in Australia in July 1994 (I know this because I put a little sticker with a handwritten date on the back of the case - I'm a bit anal like that), but it may only have been an import, because there is no release shown in Platterlog; I suspect EMI Australia didn't bother with this as they already had the mid-price THE MOST OF IKE & TINA TURNER, as well as a reissue of the NUTBUSH CITY LIMITS album.
PhilMH SUBS ● 31st Jul 2021		Vinyl Album Stevie Wonder - Music Of My Mind	As with the Canadian INNERVISIONS, original 1972 release was on Tamla Motown via Ampex, then on Motown via Motown Records, Canada Ltd. until that company reintroduced the Tamla label to Canada in 1977. Edit: INNERVISIONS, not MUSIC OF MY MIND.
PhilMH SUBS ● 31st Jul 2021		Vinyl Album Stevie Wonder - Innervisions	I don't think this should be 1973; the original Canadian release that year was on the Tamla Motown label, distributed by Ampex; the following year it was reissued by Motown Records, Canada Ltd. on their pale-blue Motown label; 1975 saw a pressing on the Motown map label; 1977 seems to have been when Motown Records, Canada Ltd. reintroduced the Tamla label to Canada for the first time since early 1965, so let's go with that. Catalogue number has remained the same throughout (give or take an L on the end).
PhilMH SUBS ● 30th Jul 2021		Vinyl Album Del Shannon - Little Town Flirt	This album was listed amongst Billboard's Breakout Albums in their issue dated June 22nd, 1963.
PhilMH SUBS ● 22nd Jul 2021		Vinyl Album John Mayall With Eric Clapton - Blues Breakers	Interesting - the 1974 Decca main catalogue lists only the mono edition, with a date of July 1966; the 1975 main catalogue lists only the stereo edition, with a date of December 1969! So, I don't know whether the stereo was accidentally omitted from the 1974 catalogue, or if it was actually reissued during the following year, but Decca decided to use the original stereo issue date in the 1975 catalogue. And I think that is a 1969 on the unboxed label, the text is either partly worn away, or the printer didn't make proper contact in the first place. Can't help with any sonic differences, I'm afraid.

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