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Member	Item		Review/Comment
scrough 13th Jul 2022		78 RPM Mr. Steve Bartle - Empire March / The Sailor's Hornpipe (1910)	The 12" Musogram records have a playing time in excess of 5 minutes for each side. See Mike Thomas's website
scrough 12th Jul 2022		78 RPM Mr. Bartle - Blue Bells Of Scotland (1906)	@Dean Detroit - Steve Bartle is a completely different person to Alexander Prince. Prince played Duet system concertina, Bartle played English system concertina. This misinformation unfortunately was made in many discographies in the past. I've written the biography for Bartle to explain this.
scrough 3rd Jul 2022		78 RPM Chas Peters - Hold Your Hand Out Naughty Boy / You Made Me Love You (1913)	Release date was December 1913. Chas Peters is a pseudonym for Jack Charman. Updated.
scrough 28th Jun 2022		78 RPM Geraldo And The Savoy Hotel Orchestra - Love At Last / Beneath The Lights Of Home (1941)	Date correct. Dates for most Parlophone records are available from our 78rpm Dating Software.
scrough 28th Jun 2022		78 RPM George King - Austrian Cadets / Return Of The Regiment (1909)	Variant labels added - 'Trade Mark' (which are earlier) rather than 'Trade Mark Registered '.
scrough 6th Jun 2022		78 RPM Alexander Prince - Chicago Schottische / Jackanapes Polka (1915)	Earlier labels added
scrough 6th Jun 2022		78 RPM Wilhelm Hesch - Hier irn irdischen Jammertal / Keine Ruh bei Tag und Nacht (1907)	Both sides recorded in 1907, exact date unknown, so dated accordingly.
scrough 3rd Jun 2022		78 RPM Петръ Лещенко - Черне Глаэа (Schwarze Augen) / „Станочекъ" Нродная Пъсня	All Columbia and HMV 'foreign' records were available in the UK 'to special order' so that may explain this record.
scrough 2nd Jun 2022		78 RPM Original Capitol Orchestra - Felix Kept On Walking / Blue Hoosier Blues (1924)	if you look at the earlier and later posts to the one you linked to: 'HMV Dog' (Nipper): June 1920 - June 1924 Z-R filigree quandrants: July 1924 - Nov 1926 Z-R filigree quadrants with speed: May 1926 Z-R filigree without lower quadrants: Sept 1926 'Zonophone' only without 'Record': Dec 1926 to end of label (Dec 1932) Bright green label:Oct 1931 to end of label. Double Sided UK Zonophone serial numbers go from 1 to 2999, and then jump to 5000. A serial number in the range 3000 to 4999 indicates an export issue.
scrough 14th Apr 2022		78 RPM Bernard Miles - Over The Gate / Me An' Old Charlie (1949)	All tracks recorded 29 Jul 1941, and all Mx numbers are take 2, so not a re-recording. 9209 was released Oct 1941, deleted Mar 1949. 9829 was released Nov 1949, deleted Apr 1959. Details from here.
scrough 11th Apr 2022		78 RPM Phyllis Robins - It's A Hap-Hap-Happy Day / Goodnight Children Everywhere (1940)	Frank Andrews/Bill Dean Myatt list this record as being deleted from the catalogue in March 1942
scrough 9th Apr 2022		78 RPM M. César Vezzani - Mattinata / Les Millions D'Arlequin (1932)	Both listings are a mix of 'Gramophone' (ie pre HMV) and HMV (Disque "Gramophone") labelled releases. In the UK we have the two as separate labels, which might point the way to go.
scrough 10th Nov 2021		78 RPM Harry Marlow - Till The Boys Come Home / When Tommy Comes Marching Home (1915)	Swapped side order, moved original labels up, and tidied up
scrough 3rd Nov 2021		78 RPM Duke Ellington And His Famous Orchestra - Tiger Rag, Part 1 / Tiger Rag, Part 2 (1932)	From the Decca UK biography: Decca also exported UK Brunswick issues using the BM series under its own label, with the numbers the same as the UK Brunswick issues.
scrough 5th Oct 2021		78 RPM Mr. Harry Champion - Down Came The Blind / Never Let Your Braces Dangle (1910)	Release dates given in biography say 1910.
scrough 20th Sep 2021		78 RPM Mr. Billy Wilson - Tickle Me, Timothy / I Never Heard Father Laugh So Much Before	@Pridesale: Double-sided discs were pressed by many companies from ~1907 after an Austrian court overturned a patent on them.
scrough 7th Sep 2021		78 RPM Alexander Prince - Il Bacio / Lost Chord (1913)	The label biography from the Karlo Adrian and Arthur Badrock book says this change happened around mid-1922. Where did your info come from?
scrough 29th Aug 2021		78 RPM Johnny Dodds Black Bottom Stompers - Weary Blues / New Orleans Stomp (1952)	The USA Vocalion 15362 issue (click on it) is for the original Brunswick take C794 (the crossed out matrix above) so its fairly safe to assume that the other matrix (E 22723) - only 1 different from the ranges quoted - went through the same process. DAHR and its sources are never 100% accurate.
scrough 29th Aug 2021		78 RPM Johnny Dodds Black Bottom Stompers - Weary Blues / New Orleans Stomp (1952)	The answer is here. The original recording was for USA Brunswick in 1927 and it was released on USA Vocalion about the same year. But Brunswick later updated the matrix and this 1952 UK Vocalion issue reflects this.
scrough 28th Aug 2021		78 RPM Harry Roy's Tiger-Ragamuffins - Fox Trot Medley (1935)	The No 3&4 labels are earlier (horn gramophone behind the £). Parlophone made many errors and changes in the details on labels.
scrough 26th Aug 2021		78 RPM Merle Travis - I Got A Mean Old Woman / Start Even (1950)	Just two extra strings, rather than the doubling up of strings on a 12 string. Travis experimented with things like this, including tunings.
scrough 11th Jul 2021		78 RPM Arthur Askey - The Cuckoo / All To Specification (1939)	Keith- The "first" picture is listed as the B side, so I've swapped image order.
scrough 17th Jun 2021		78 RPM Grand Massed Brass Bands - El Abanico / Under The Banner Of Victory (1933)	Although the lowest catalogue number to be released only on the newly merged Regal Zonophone label, this disc was not announced until the February 1933 monthly supplement. Perhaps it was accidentally omitted from the January 1933 list?
scrough 17th Jun 2021		78 RPM Alexander Prince - The Rosary / Ora Pro Nobis (1915)	It's PiccolomiNi, real name Théodore Henri Pontet - see here. Updated.
scrough 25th May 2021		78 RPM Edward Halland - Why Do The Nations / The Trumpet Shall Sound (1927)	Moved from "Edison Bell" to "Edison Bell Velvet Face" and added release date.
scrough 19th May 2021		78 RPM Hermanos Deniz Cuban Rhythm Band - Doucement, Doucment (Could It Be) / Alma Llanera	Thanks. We already have a list of Columbia's 'International' series around 1951 - see here - so it would have been moved to 'export' eventually.
scrough 1st May 2021		78 RPM Alexander Prince - Hop Scotch Schottische / The Lost Chord	Edison Bell recordings, as shown by matrix numbers. A side previously issued on Bell Disc 206 (July 1910), Velvet Face 1256 (Feb 1913), and Winner 2053 (Feb 1912) B side previously issued on Bell Disc 205 (July 1910), Velvet Face 1005 (Dec 1910), and Winner 2488 (Dec 1913)
scrough 29th Apr 2021		78 RPM Foden's Motor Works Band - John Peel / Minstrel Memories (1941)	'Common Sense' often doesn't apply with Columbia. This record was listed in the Columbia New Records Supplement for January 1941. That also contains a listing for releases from July to December 1940 which does not include this disc (images uploaded here). Date changed.
scrough 26th Mar 2021		78 RPM Mr. Harry Cove - The Wedding Glide / How D'Ye Do Miss Ragtime (1913)	This info is expanded more fully in the label biog
scrough 3rd Mar 2021		78 RPM La Garde Republicaine - Schottisch Des Pierrots (1904)	That's debatable Mike. The Gramophone Company was an International company from the start with each division able to choose which recordings were included in its catalogues.In 1899 Alfred Clark established a joint venture company in Paris with GramCo - Cie Français du Gramophone. Because of our lack of knowledge about where these early releases were made, we have chosen to list them in their country of recording. Note that the track description is in French, which strongly suggests a French release!

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