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78 RPM Record

Artist: Handy's Orchestra Label:   Columbia Country: USA Catalogue: A2418 Date: Dec 1917 Format: 10" Genre: Blues, Jazz, Instrumental Collection:   I Own It     I Want It  Community:  5 Own, 1 Wants Price Guide: $29 » Search eBay #AD  » Search Amazon #AD This site contains affiliate links for which we may be compensated.

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Track	Artist	Title	Composer	Rating
A	Handy's Orchestra	A Bunch Of Blues	Kelly, Wyer	Rate
B	Handy's Orchestra	Moonlight Blues	Deane	Rate

Notes

Original releases are credited to Handy's Orchestra, represses to Handy's Orchestra Of Memphis.

Orchestra leader: W. C. Handy
A side (mx. 77373, take 1) recorded New York, NY, September 24, 1917.
B side (mx. 77369, take 1) recorded New York, NY, September 22, 1917.
(DAHR).

Runouts of LZ/BY copy:
1-B-54 (under label) 77373 (runout)
1-B-53 (under label) 77369 (runout)

Advertised in
Tulsa Daily World (Tulsa, Okla.), Tuesday, January 1, 1918, page 6.
Oklahoma City Times, February 15, 1918, page 4.
The Talking Machine World, Feb. 15, 1918, page 113: Advance Record Bulletins for March, 1918 (= released in Feb.), Dance Records of the Month ("A Bunch Of Blues" is listed first)

1917-1918 label (Columbia Grafonola logo, price restriction note, six patents in two equally long lines):
JZ abel printing code on both sides (= October 1917), originally released ca. Dec. 20, 1917.
LZ label printing code on both sides (= December 1917), originally released ca. Feb. 20, 1918.
LZ label printing code on A side (= December 1917), BY label printing code on B side (= February 1918);
BY label printing code on both sides (= February 1918)
IY label printing code on both sides (= September 1918)

1918-1919 label (Columbia Grafonola logo, price restriction note, six patents in two unequally long lines):
CX label printing code on both sides (= March 1919)

1920 repress with 1920-1922 label design (four patents in two lines):
CW label printing code (= March 1920)

Images

Number: 3541290  THUMBNAIL Uploaded By: han enderman Edited By: scrough Description: Columbia A2418 A side label (original release with JZ = October 1917 label printing date code)	Number: 3541296  Uploaded By: han enderman Edited By: scrough Description: Columbia A2418 A side label (KZ = Nov. 1917, with JZ on B side)	Number: 3541291  Uploaded By: han enderman Edited By: scrough Description: Columbia A2418 B side label (JZ = Oct. 1917, coupled with KZ)	Number: 3541298  Uploaded By: han enderman Edited By: scrough Description: Co A-2418 (KZ) #2b A
Number: 3541303  Uploaded By: han enderman Edited By: scrough Description: Co A-2418 (KZ) #2b A take-3	Number: 2066020  Uploaded By: Mike Gann Edited By: scrough Description: Columbia A2418 A side label (LZ = Dec. 1917)	Number: 2066021  Uploaded By: Mike Gann Description: Columbia A2418 B side label (LZ = Dec. 1917)	Number: 1363667  Uploaded By: xiphophilos Description: Columbia A2418 A side label (LZ = December 1917, flipside BY = early repress)
Number: 1363676  Uploaded By: xiphophilos Description: Columbia A2418 B side label (BY = February 1919, flipside LZ, early repress)	Number: 3541312  Uploaded By: han enderman Edited By: scrough Description: Co A-2418 (CY) a	Number: 3541313  Uploaded By: han enderman Edited By: scrough Description: Co A-2418 (CX) a (price sticker)	Number: 3541315  Uploaded By: han enderman Edited By: scrough Description: Co A-2418 (FX) a
Number: 3541317  Uploaded By: han enderman Edited By: scrough Description: Co A-2418 (FX) b	Number: 1037824  Uploaded By: vocalion red Description: Columbia A2418 A side label (CW = March 1920 repress, with price increase sticker)	Number: 1037825  Uploaded By: vocalion red Description: Columbia A2418 B side label (CW = March 1920 repress)	Number: 3541320  Uploaded By: han enderman Edited By: scrough Description: Columbia A2418 A side label (JW = Oct. 1920)
Number: 3541323  Uploaded By: han enderman Edited By: scrough Description: Columbia A2418 B side label (JW = Oct. 1920)	Number: 3540638  Uploaded By: xiphophilos Description: Tulsa Daily World (Tulsa, Okla.), Tuesday, January 1, 1918, page 6	Number: 1058064  HIDDEN Uploaded By: vocalion red Description: Columbia Grafonola sleeve 1918

Comments and Reviews

xiphophilos 19th Apr 2024		I know, it does take some time, doesn't it? ;-) Thanks for doing an impressive job with them, scrough! I notice you even managed to make some of the more tilted images look straight - far better than I could ever have done. You are a real artist!
scrough 19th Apr 2024		xiphophilos - all images now edited, so back to you. han - please don't make a habit of this ;)
xiphophilos 17th Apr 2024		This is a large collection of ebay pictures, and it shows nicely how popular this record was. But before I could rearrange anything, I would have to crop all these images to a circle, and right now, I'd rather not do that.
han enderman 17th Apr 2024		Co A-2418 - I hope xiphophilos will have much pleasure in reorganizing the images, as I have added JZ, KZ (2 variants with different layout of the original credit), CY, FX and JW labels. The large KZ image (with green sticker) was said by seller to be take 3 and I think you can see a faint 3. The 1st KZ label (#2a A) was coupled with a JZ label (#1 B).
xiphophilos 16th Apr 2024		I've now seen an actual first release. It lists the orchestra only as "Handy's Orchestra", not "Handy's Orchestra of Memphis," and features the label printing date code JZ (= October 1917). Based on the catalog numbers, Columbia A2417, A2418, A2419, A2420, A2421, all credited to Handy's Orchestra, must have been released around December 20, 1917. They didn't get mentioned or listed in The Talking Machine World's December 15, 1917 issue. Maybe the company thought that only African-Americans would be interested. Instead, individual dealers promoted the records in their local newspapers. The oldest promotional ad I have now seen is: Tulsa Daily World (Tulsa, Okla.), Tuesday, January 1, 1918, page 6. Only in February 1918, when Columbia was printing repress after repress of these records, did they list the first two of these five records (A2417 and A2418) in The Talking Machine World, but the as Dance Records of the Month.
xiphophilos 29th Oct 2019		Perfect! Since your copy represents the original release, I have moved it up.
Mike Gann 29th Oct 2019		With respect to xiphophilos I've uploaded a clearer a-side label and the b-side label with the LZ printing code.
xiphophilos 26th May 2018		A side: A side on mp3
BigBadBluesMan 8th Mar 2017
xiphophilos 24th Apr 2016		From vocalion red: On the A side, "Moonlight Blues," there seems to be an embossing 1-F-217. On the B side "A Bunch Of Blues," is a 2 around under the Columbia/Granafola circle. Then down further into the label there is either a 66 or a 99. The matrix # 77373 is embossed outside the label itself. I'll fix the A side to say that it represents take 1, because the first embossed number is the take number.
xiphophilos 24th Apr 2016		Does the A side really represent take 3? According to DAHR, only take 1 and 2 were released. Is there a number in the runout or embossed under the label that reveals which one you have?
fixbutte 23rd Apr 2016		Best is probably to add the recording date from the Online 78 Disco to the notes. Then you may enter the recording year as the Release Date, as most often a record was released in the year of the recording. You may consider as well that recordings made in December were generally issued in the following year. If you bother to do some more research, you can look for the recording dates of the nearby catalog numbers on the Online 78 Disco, compare their dates and try to deduce the actual release year.
vocalion red 23rd Apr 2016		Dear fixbutte, all the dating info I have comes from the Online 78 Disco. Project. Without their info, I have no dating info at all. What would you have me do ? Would you prefer that I then not enter any date info at all, then wait for a moderator to enter it for me ? This I can do, if it would be more preferable. Or, I could use my date info on the "notes" column only. ;-) Drop me a message to inform me.
fixbutte 23rd Apr 2016		As said before: the dates on the Online (78rpm) Discographical Project are recording dates. You can add them to the Record Notes when you enter a record here. Please don't use the recording date(s) as the Release Date, i.e. the date when the record was issued for sale by the record company. As our Add 78 form says, you may enter "Just the year, or the complete date if you know it." I have moved the submitted "24 Sep 1917" date, which was the recording date of only one side, to the notes, and also flipped sides according to the matrix numbers. The order of sides on 78discography.com is just random and doesn't mean anything.

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