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Artist: Henry Hall Label:   Columbia Country: UK Catalogue: CA.12882-1 Date: 15 Jul 1932 Format: 10" Collection:   I Own It     I Want It  Community:  1 Owns Price Guide: Valuation Page » Search eBay #AD  » Search Amazon #AD This site contains affiliate links for which we may be compensated.

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Track	Artist	Title	Composer	Rating
A	Henry Hall	Underneath the Arches	Flanagan	Rate

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Test Record

B.B.C. Dance Orchestra
Vocal chorus by Flanagan & Allen [Bud Flanagan & Chesney Allen]

C.G. Co. Ltd. = Columbia Graphophone Co. Ltd

Matrix CA.12882-1, recorded 15 July 1932.

B side has grooves but no run-off at the end and no label.

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getalife 29th Jul 2022		Ref: C. G. Co,. Ltd label https://digital.collections.slsa.sa.gov.au/nodes/view/7677?keywords=
mister_tmg 24th Feb 2020		Maybe they were very well-rehearsed in those days. I was told by a collector that suffix 1 didn't necessarily mean the first take, although that was in relation to 78s from the tape era, when perhaps they discarded alternate takes and simply labelled the one chosen for issue as -1. I suppose in the days of direct-to-disc recording, they probably rehearsed a lot before going for a take.
xiphophilos 23rd Feb 2020		I very much doubt that Columbia's recording engineers assigned take numbers based on their personal ranking of the quality of the different takes. First of all, that would mean that they would have to leave takes unnumbered until they had recorded all the takes they needed. Yet sometimes, new takes were recorded days, if not weeks apart because people were not happy with the way earlier takes turned out. Moreover, you should never be able to find a take 3, for example, as the only released take of a certain record. How can that be if that take was everyone's third preference? Yet Columbia CB 439 "Here's To The Next Time," performed by Henry Hall and BBC Dance Orchestra, has the matrix and take number CA-12493-3 (recorded 30 March 1932). If so many Henry Hall releases are take 1s, that's because the orchestra got it right the first time.
mister_tmg 22nd Feb 2020		I’m not sure that -1 means it was the first take - more likely that it was the first preference for release. Take 2 would be the second preference for release, and so on.
Pridesale 26th Mar 2013		From Graces Guide http://www.gracesguide.co.uk/Columbia_Gramophone_Co Columbia Gramophone Co of Hayes, Middlesex 1917 Private company formed at the initiative of Louis Sterling to protect Columbia's growing business in records. Acquired the Hertford Record Company, which, prior to the war, had been the main British business of the German record company Carl Lindström AG. 1923 Management Buy Out when the American parent was put into receivership 1924 Flotation of the company 1931 Merger of the UK Columbia Gramophone Co and the Gramophone Co to form the Electric and Musical Industries Ltd (EMI) in March 1931 as a public company. So Columbia Gramophone Company , I think , was retained as the recording and pressing company within EMI. The B.B.C. did not have its own record production or recording facilities.
Pridesale 26th Mar 2013		Follow-up note in terms of recording. For B.B.C Orchestras they would normally broadcast live, but popular requests received would then cause studio recordings for public release to be considered, see FB 2816, for example. I suppose they could also plan ahead with recordings if they thought they might be popular or for broadcast / sale to other radio stations around the world.
Pridesale 26th Mar 2013		This must have come from your pressings collection CA.12882 is the A Side of the Linked Release CB 481, which you will note is the B.B.C. Dance Orchestra Under the Direction of Henry Hall. - 1 means it is the first take (no tape editing in those days, the band had to go for it). The run-out matrix number on CB 481 should show if -1 was used or if there were further takes, which may also include differing arrangements and not necessarily have been recorded on the same day (See George Formby discography links for examples). Jack Payne had been leader of the B.B.C. Dance Orchestra up to 1932, I understand. It appears that the change over to Henry Hall's leadership and direction was not clear-cut. It's possible that the terms of his contract (exclusivity, musical freedom, etc.) had not been fully agreed in the need to find a leader of the band in 1932 so some different credits will appear in these times. This is why I always put the printed matrix number, per label, in the notes sections of all the records I add on each side, to assist traceability back to the recording logs and acetates where they exist.
getalife 21st Jan 2013		Wiki has it as being written by Flanagan in 1927 and recorded in 1932, could this be the first test pressings?.
carryonsidney 13th Dec 2012		Tricky one, says Abbey Road on label so it's an EMI company? I wonder if it is a cut made for the BBC to broadcast? Also the actual singing is by Flanagan & Allen, not Henry Hall, so this record needs to be linked to them somehow.
KeithS SUBS 12th Dec 2012		C.G could be Columbia Grammophone...(Definitely doesnt stand for the colour Charcoal Grey) .

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