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Artist:Henry Hall
Label:  Columbia
Country:UK
Catalogue:FB.2816
Date:1942
Format:10"
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Community: 22 Own, 5 Want
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TrackArtistTitleComposerRating
AHenry HallTeddy Bears' PicnicKennedy, Bratton10.0  Rate
BHenry HallHush Hush Hush, Here Comes The Bogey ManLowton, Benson10.0  Rate


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CA.13051
CA.13048

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Redpunk SUBS
28th Aug 2020
 Added side B label scan.
 

 
Pridesale
29th Sep 2013
 From Wiki
(UK) Decca bought out the bankrupt UK branch of Brunswick Records in 1932
Late 1934, a United States branch of Decca was launched. In establishing the American unit, the founders bought the former Brunswick Records pressing plants in New York City and Muskegon, Michigan, which were shut down in 1931, from Warner Bros. in exchange for a financial interest in the new label.

Decca became a major player in the depressed American record market thanks to its roster of popular artists, particularly Bing Crosby, the shrewd management of former US Brunswick General Manager Jack Kapp, and the decision to price Decca at 35 cents [UK Decca priced its records at less than half those of Columbia-HMV in 1930 ( Culshaw, John, "50 years of the Decca record label", Gramophone, July 1979, p. 23) A bit of cut and thrust in the US record market kept Decca's cash flow going .

Wikipedia also states 'By 1939, Decca and EMI were the only record companies in the UK.'
(Really ?, - I guess we can exclude labels sold through Woolworths. Does this mean the Only pressing plants were at Hayes , Middlesex , and Decca had bought out Duophone's ( Acquired from British Brunswick - and then into the New Malden Holding Company pressing plant at New Malden - Philips didn't join the UK market until the early 1950s What had happend to the Plants of Vocalion ( into EMI ) and Crystalite - Rex (into Decca).

In passing Duophone Unbreakable Record Co had plants at Shepherds Bush, Feltham, Slough & Southall , and ( http://www.vjm.biz/new_page_5.htm copying Badrock) were pretty close to bootlegging Amercian Brunswick masters onto Duophone issues by the late 1920s .

See also http://archive.spectator.co.uk/page/20th-october-1928/56 for Duophone's New Malden purchase and financial optimism.

Of course the original flat record patents were really only held by two companies initally anyway
 

 
RadnaNotions
28th Sep 2013
 Absolutely. Although recession and mass unemployment in the thirties were ultimately why people weren't buying records.

And to be clear, all this is why you don't see many of the Henry Hall discs. It was just bad timing on his part to take over when he did.
 

 
Pridesale
28th Sep 2013
 Why the drop in sales 1932-1939: 1) Price , 2)Businesses under capitalised and so folding or merging 3) growth of radio. Drop 1939-1948 1) Taxation.
Why you dont see so many as one might think. 1) Destruction by moving house , etc 2)Substitution by vinyl formats , 3) There was a war on.
One should be amazed really at how many of these bulky , fragile , relatively expensive things exist. If a couple of second-hand shops I know had or would drop prices to realistic levels there would have been a couple of thousand more titles on here ( not necessarily pre 1948 )

Of Course as a Children's Novelty many would be chucked out when the children grew up- or got broken
 

 
RadnaNotions
27th Sep 2013
 Although the Great Depression started in around 1930, the real drop in record sales appears to have occurred in around 1932. You really don't see that many records from about 1933-1948. Or perhaps I should say, compared to the number of records you see from the late twenties, early thirties, and the fifties, you don't see many records from those years.
 

 
Pridesale
24th Sep 2013
 Thanks , so I will add DB 955 as identical tracks , but with credit to B.B.C. Dance Orchestra with Directed By Henry Hall in the notes, subject to a scan appearing.

The reasons why I can think surprisingly so few existing it seems are - general losses , wartime losses , and maybe fewer actually sold as the performance from the record re-used on popular BBC radio shows quite often.

You have probably made a middle-aged lady quite happy on this ( a contact on Freecycle who was hoping I had a copy in my give-away pile)

There is also the non-vocal? version of Teddy Bears' by Larry Fotaine
 

 
The Toad
24th Sep 2013
 According to Sandy Forbes and Brian Rust's 'British Dance Bands On Record 1911 - 1945' Henry Hall's first recordings with the BBC Dance Orchestra (as The New BBC Dance Orchestra directed by Henry Hall) were made on the 19th of February 1932; the final Jack Payne BBC session had been on the 5th of that month. Versions of 'Teddy Bears Picnic' and 'Hush Hush Hush' were recorded on September 28th, 1932, by which time the 'New' part of the name had been dropped. The coupling was issed as Columbia DB-955 and also (later) as FB-2816. The matrix numbers were CA-13051-1 and CA-13048-1 respectively. The FB-2816 number is from the 'Variety' series, which started at FB-1000 in February 1935.
'Whos' Afraid?' was recorded on October 16th the following year, matrix number CA-14060-1, and was issued as CB-669 - it was in the CB-prefixed 'Dance' series, whereas 'Teddy' had been in the DB-prefixed 'Popular' series. The other side is listed as being 'Did My Heart Beat, Did I Fall In Love?, (CA-13963-3) which was recorded on the same day. 'Kennedy & Bratton' is the composer credit on DB-955.
Other versions of 'Teddy' were made by Jay Wilbur (twice, in 1932 for Eclipse and 1934 for Rex), Tommy Kinsman (1936, for Octacros) and Alec Brown (1937, for Decca).

I always knew that book would come in useful, once, someday. :-)
 

 
doowopmike
12th Jun 2013
 I'm 99% certain mine says BBC Dance Orchestra Directed by Henry Hall. Next time I'm at the self store (pretty rare to be fair) I'll pull it out, check and scan.

Why are the Henry Hall ones so hard to find, they must have been huge sellers. I've only ever seen two of this an one is mine!
 

 
lorangrecords SUBS
3rd Apr 2013
 Added year of release from Columbia label discography.
 

 
scrough
16th Feb 2013
 Vocalist is Val (Valerian) Rosing, son of Russian Opera singer Val (Vladimir) Rosing.
 

 
Whyperion SUBS
15th Feb 2013
 Did early pressings omit the Kennedy Credit , of this 1932 release - see ebook ( theres a hard copy about too ) of J J Kennedy - The Man Who Wrote the Teddy Bears' Picnic:.

I thought this was released as Henry Hall and the B.B.C Dance Orchestra , or was, after Jack Payne had left the BBC, the recording was done by Henry Hall as the contract had not fully been done with the BBC in the early change-over.
 

 
Whyperion SUBS
15th Feb 2013
 

 


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