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Artist:King Oliver And His Dixie Syncopators
Label:  Brunswick
Country:USA
Catalogue:3741
Date:2 Feb 1928
Format:10"
Genre:Jazz, Instrumental
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Community: 1 Owns, 1 Wants
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TrackArtistTitleComposerRating
AKing Oliver And His Dixie SyncopatorsFarewell BluesSchoebel, Mares, RappoloRate
BKing Oliver And His Dixie SyncopatorsSobbin' BluesKassel, BertonRate


Notes

Personnel:
King Oliver (cornet); Jimmy Archey (trombone); Paul Barnes (Soprano sax, alto sax); ?Barney Bigard (clarinet, tenor sax), ?Benny Waters (clarinet, tenor sax, arranger); unknown piano, banjo, tuba; Paul Barbarin (drums).
(per Brian Rust)

A side (Vocalion mx. E6806 = Brunswick mx. E25352) recorded New York, NY, November 18, 1927.
B side (Vocalion mx. E6811 = Brunswick mx. E25355) recorded New York, NY, November 18, 1927.
(DAHR)

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Comments and Reviews
 
xiphophilos
8th Jun 2024
 Yes, Brunswick didn't release its records in their exact numerical order. Still, I've noticed something when when I looked at the release dates mentioned so far:
February 2, 1928
March 8, 1928
April 5, 1928:

They are all Thursdays early in the month. Only December 2, 1927 was a Friday. Seems like Brunswick and Vocalion released their new records only once a month, usually on the first Thursday of the month, except when the 1st was a Thursday - then it would be either Friday or the Thursday of the second week.
 

 
Mike Gann
8th Jun 2024
 The release dates that Russell Shor and Helge Thygesen provide are pulled from the original Brunswick file cards in the same manner that John Bolig did with Victor. You can't line up these Brunswick and Vocalion releases in any kind of order because they were released very much out of sequence. If you want an example, pull up the discography that we have for Lester McFarland and Robert A. Gardner.
 

 
DeweyGill SUBS
8th Jun 2024
 Yes, info from DAHR.
Sorry, I’ve been a bit lax on citing sources and adding pertinent information. I’m adding some things rather hurriedly here. I’m actually in the middle of reboxing about 100 failing milk crates of dupes and unsorted stuff that have been sitting in my garage for a decade. When I get a few minutes I’m adding some of items that I’ve decided no longer should be in the garage in unstable conditions.
 

 
xiphophilos
8th Jun 2024
 Then let's assume that Brunswick 3741 came out at the same time as Brunswick 3742 (Vernon Dalhart - Carson Robison), 3744 (Rodney Roger's Red Peppers), 3747 (Ben Bernie & His Hotel Roosevelt Orchestra), namely on February 2, 1928. At least two of these three releases are by white artists. I suspect that Brunswick simply didn't bother to advertise "race records" in The Talking Machine World, and they were certainly not alone in this.
 

 
cyeaman SUBS
8th Jun 2024
 Thygesen & Shor must have incorrectly cited the release date for Brunswick 3741. It's likely that the Vocalion record came out for the Race market in December 1927 and the Brunswick release came out in February or March 1928.
 

 
xiphophilos
8th Jun 2024
 Okay, I've changed the date from February 1928 to Mar. 8, 1928. I just wish we knew what these dates are based on. Unfortunately, I can't find a contemporary newspaper ad online, but those must have existed. Vocalion didn't advertise in the February 1928 Talking Machine World, so I also don't know what the Febr. 2 date for the original Vocalion issue is based on.
 

 
cyeaman SUBS
8th Jun 2024
 I believe the release date is incorrect. These titles were first issued on Vocalion 1152, which was released on February 2, 1928 (per "Vocalion 1000 & Brunswick 7000 Race Series" by Helge Thygesen & Russell Shor). Brunswick 3741 seems to have come out about a month later, on March 8, 1928, according to Laurie Wright in "'King' Oliver". Note that Wright also gives a release date of December 2, 1927 for Vocalion 1152, though.
 

 
xiphophilos
8th Jun 2024
 Brunswick 3742ff. were listed in The Talking Machine World on Brunswick's list for February 2, 1928. Brunswick's listings in TMW are rather spotty (they next advertised their April 5 list), but I am still pretty sure that this record did not get released in 1927.
 

 
xiphophilos
8th Jun 2024
 Ah, I see. DAHR writes:

A side (E6806): "Masters renumbered for Brunswick use as E25352-E25353. Brunswick numbers assigned on November 30, 1927."

B side (E6811): "Masters renumbered for Brunswick use as E25354-E25355. Brunswick numbers assigned on November 30, 1927."

The original recordings (matrices E6806 and E6811) were made for release on Vocalion 1152.

Brian Rust, in Jazz and Ragtime Records, page 1269, reported the same.

For some reason, Steve Abrams and Tyrone Settlemier at http://www.78discography.com/BRN3500.htm list the correct Brunswick renumberings, but then also assign matrix numbers with Chicago's C-prefix to these recordings: C903 and C906.
 

 
xiphophilos
8th Jun 2024
 @DeweyGill: Where did you find these matrix numbers:
6606 E25352 Farewell Blues
6611 E25355 Sobbin’ Blues?
The first one in each row looks like a typo, the second one may be a renumbering? In any case, they do not agree with the matrix numbers in Ross Laird's Brunswick discography, as reported by DAHR.
 


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