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Artist:Mme. Epitropaki—K. Jordanou
Label:  Victor
Country:USA
Catalogue:V-8001
Date:1929
Format:10"
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Community: 1 Owns
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TrackArtistTitleComposerRating
AMme. Epitropaki—K. JordanouΗ γυναίκα που σκοτώνει - I Ghyneka Pou Skotoni (The Woman Who Kills)Rate
BMme. Epitropaki—K. JordanouΓλυκό μου αγόρι - Glyko Mou Agori (My Sweet Boy)Rate


Notes

Greek
Επιτροπάκη - Ιορδάνου (i.e., Αλίκη Βίτσου-Επιτροπάκη and Κώστας Ιορδάνου)

Duet with Orchestra
Recorded in Europe.

A & B sides: music and lyrics by Themis Naltsas (Θέμης Νάλτσας).(source 1, source 2)


Images



Number: 1252854  THUMBNAIL
Uploaded By: Bob1951
Edited By: xiphophilos
Description: Victor V-8001 A side label


Number: 1252855 
Uploaded By: Bob1951
Edited By: xiphophilos
Description: Victor V-8001 B side label


Comments and Reviews
 
Scratchy45
6th Feb 2017
 This song seems to have been crisscrossing the Atlantic over a number of years. There is an American recording from 1924 (the first?) by the rather better-known Marika Papagika (Μαρίκα Παπαγκίκα) on Columbia 7009F. I would expect that to be documented by Richard Spottswood.



Returning to V-8001/AO-546 there's a passing reference to the AO-546 recording and a Greek-market Odeon competitor Odeon GA1192 (and an awful lot more besides) in Edmund Michael Innes' exhaustive "Report on a visit to Greece April-May 1930" for H.M.V. There's a wealth of detail there about many things. It's available online from a few sources, but I first found this in 100+-page PDF form on the documents page of the "Recording Pioneers" site.
 

 
scrough
2nd Feb 2017
 To clarify my previous comment, after Berliner was prevented from producing discs in the USA, he moved his operation to Canada. So you'll see the Nipper logo on Canadian discs (example here), as well as USA Victor, and UK GramCo/HMV (after 1909), showing the close ties between the companies.
 

 
scrough
1st Feb 2017
 The Gramophone Company (HMV) and Victor exchanged recordings from their beginnings, with Gramco covering Europe and Victor the Americas. After Emil Berliner was prevented from making discs in the USA (June 1900), Eldrige Johnson managed to convince the USA courts in Philadelphia that he should be able to produce discs for the machines he'd been making for Berliner in the USA, so founded the Victor label. He was also exporting these machines to GramCo in England as well providing technical improvements in machines and recording processes to them. The two companies worked together to mutual advantage.
 

 
xiphophilos
1st Feb 2017
 You are right, the labels fail to mention the composer. In that case, we are supposed to leave the composer field blank and add the name(s), if we know it, in the Notes field.

Regarding how Victor got hold of European recordings like this, I wonder if they had some matrix sharing deal with His Master's Voice. This record was originally released in Greece on HMV AO-546.
 

 
Scratchy45
1st Feb 2017
 My apologies xiphophilos for spreading a bit of confusion - I was thinking in terms of composer credits and of the way composers are entered on 45cat (multiple composer names are separated by a comma, regardless of what appears on the label).

Artist names as they appear on the label are indeed a different kettle of fish, and the notes (which I failed to read completely) do clear up any ambiguity.

I haven't checked online for any more info, but the composer names - even as entered - don't seem to appear on the label.

On a different tack, the existence of this as a US release has got me thinking about the possible physical processes by which this European recording would have got from Greece to then be manufactured in New York (or to another diaspora population).
 

 
fixbutte
1st Feb 2017
 Adjusted artist name, so that it is more a dash than a hyphen (correct English?), like it was clearly used between the Greek names, so it may be easier to understand.
 

 
xiphophilos
1st Feb 2017
 I'm not sure what you are trying to tell us, Scratchy45. I entered the fact that the recording features a "Duet with Orchestra", and I am aware that Aliki Epitropaki and Kostas Jordanou are two different people and that this record is not the same as the one on the Youtube video.
 

 
kimbozw
1st Feb 2017
 thanks for including the transliterations of greek titles and meanings. Most useful. Efharisto!
 

 
Scratchy45
1st Feb 2017
 Going by the label, there are two artists here with names separated by a hyphen. The label description is "duet",
 

 
xiphophilos
1st Feb 2017
 What a great find!

Since this particular record is nowhere online, here is an audio sample of the same song, Η γυναίκα που σκοτώνει, performed one year earlier by a different singer, Tasia Dimitriadi; the submitter has also added the Greek lyrics:
 


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