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Member	Item		Review/Comment
Lee Wrecker 25th Aug 2017		CD Album The Jam - Compact Snap! (1984)	A blessing in disguise?
Lee Wrecker 25th Aug 2017		CD Album Van Morrison - Moondance	We had longboxes in Australia too Magic. All US imports for the local market of course but they were released here as standard stock. I'm with Greg on this one but the more I see here the less I know. International CD production is a very messy business and there are a lot of similar but not not "identical" CDs floating around. No bar code as opposed to a CD with a bar code would be enough to warrant a separate entry as far as I'm concerned. I'm also keen on sec. cat#s as another determinant - bet you never thought I'd say that Greg - because the way we're going we'll end up with incoherent pages of "similar" stuff and no-one will be able to find anything using the actual data in front of them on the CD. What is known is one CD has two cat#s and no bar code and one has one cat# and a bar code. One is a USA release and the other USA/EU (International by our crazy reckoning). I think that's enough to separate the releases. Lumping all of these differences together on the same listing just doesn't make sense to me. "I know but I don't know" was Rumsfeld ever in Blondie? Regardless, "now I know, I don't know" seems to be our default position with these issues. At least we can all agree that we don't know what the f#@k to do or how to go about it. Government jobs here we come!
Lee Wrecker 25th Aug 2017		CD Album Jethro Tull - Thick As A Brick (1998)	Magic are you sure kab's entry is the earlier entry? This entry has been up for over a year and a half - since 16th Jan 2016 according to my CD entry page. The date on both CDs is the same and should be 1998 as that is the copyright date printed on both CDs, both CDs list 1997 as the publishing date but I'm presuming they didn't use a future copyright date. I'm not sure which entry came first but I always link to all copies when I enter something and kab's CD is not linked to the others here on this page. So I'm presuming mine is the earlier entry but could be wrong. There is a difficulty in identifying UK specific discs also in that the UK cat sometimes (often) appears on International and EU and sometimes not. Not being from the UK makes it very difficult know whether a disc is a UK specific release or if that data is just included due to sloppy production. Also you can probably guess where I bought this so listing should really be something unmentionable in terms of country. On the date here's a link to a Canadian issue listed as 1998 but also with the label (incorrectly listed on link) same cat# and bar code. More problems than a dog with two .... do as you will.
Lee Wrecker 24th Aug 2017		CD Album Jethro Tull - Thick As A Brick (1997)	That's right Apollo59 I listed it a while back and used the UK cat#/code 4954002 as the primary cat#. I have made a typo though and that should have been cat# 495 4002 but I have requested a correction just now so that will change. There is only one difference I can see between the two CDs and that is kab2112's version does not carry the UK cat#/code in the bar code box. Other than that they appear to be identical to me and have matching cat#s of 7243 4 95400 2 6 which I listed as a sec. cat on my copy. I don't mind if they're merged or kept separate on the strength of the one little difference. Also I listed mine as 1998 even though it was published 1997 the copyright on the inlay and disc is listed as 1998 so I went with that. This is the same on kab2112's disc and inlay and the two should be listed as from 1998 in my view. gregs78s where are you we need some advice.
Lee Wrecker 22nd Aug 2017		CD Album Mairi Morrison And Alasdair Roberts - Urstan (2012)	Another of me favourites Dr Doom an am no even Scoretish! I posted the vinyl version here a couple of months back. Keep 'em coming. One thing has always puzzled me about Roberts and that is why does the the USA based Drag City release all his stuff. Surely he could get a deal closer to home?
Lee Wrecker 22nd Aug 2017		CD Album Zappa / Beefheart / Mothers - Bongo Fury (1995)	North American I'd say! But we don't have a flag for that but we might need one soon. Check out this 2017 LP album I added the other day that actually lists North America as the proposed market (back sleeve) with the albums being made in the EU I'm guessing. The problems from CD Albums world are moving into LP paradise. Urrgh! Make it stop but I'd go for USA unless of course you bought it in Canada. It's a toss up or maybe a c@c# up. Printed in USA (contains bar code etc.) would indicate that that would be the intended market in my view you'd be correct to assume the USA as the country. This is a corker of an album by the way.
Lee Wrecker 22nd Aug 2017		CD Album The Beatles - The U.S. Albums (2014)	So the plot thickens Beggars Road and all of the ST, UAS and SW links should be changed to their matching B00 ******* cat#s as well as on the corresponding albums. Using the facsimile Capitol LP cat#s on the artwork is not very helpful here in terms which cat#s are used in reality for these products.
Lee Wrecker 22nd Aug 2017		CD Album Neil Young And The Shocking Pinks - Everybody's Rockin' (2000)	Thanks Graham the 'h' must have fallen off in the cutting and pasting process. But, yes, that's the link and it is the Canadian version the inlay clearly states manufactured and distributed in Canada. In regard to your comment that there is no reason we can't "have entries for any identifiable countries". I agree but the guidelines here in CD Albums don't and it's a long, long story that's best avoided if possible. Skid-addle off on your merry way and thanks for the fix - or should that be fish?
Lee Wrecker 21st Aug 2017		CD Album Alasdair Roberts - Spoils (2009)	Ooooh! My leg can you help me out Dr Doom? You are a real doctor aren't you? This is one of the prolific modern Scottish folky's best albums (LP link) and that's saying something because I've not heard a bad one.
Lee Wrecker 21st Aug 2017		CD Album The Beatles - Yesterday And Today (2014)	Perhaps someone should enter the box set as well if anyone has it. I agree with Beggars Road on the cat#s of this set that are entered as individual releases in that they should all omit the the original Capitol vinyl album cat#s such as cat# ST 2553 and just have the cat# of the individual CDs. The ST cat#s are just part of the facsimile artwork and not for retail or cataloging purposes as far as I can see.
Lee Wrecker 21st Aug 2017		CD Album Television - Marquee Moon (1989)	Well Magic, this is their best album by far and the follow up "Adventure" was as good in patches but was not as consistent throughout. "Friction" has always been my favourite Television song and the whole first side is top notch. Side two (I'm an LP guy) changes the mood down a bit but is still all good and "Prove It" is another classic single from the album besides the almighty title track. If you're feeling a bit daring seek out "Adventure" it was a bit of a disappointment at the time but probably sounds better in hindsight. Now that I'm talking about it I wish I hadn't let it go all those years ago. It's hard to get on LP here in Australia these days. More of an angsty tight prog band than punk I'd say but I don't think that's a genre
Lee Wrecker 21st Aug 2017		CD Album Godley And Creme - L / Freeze Frame (2000)	Magic, are you still on the hunt for rare CDs well you can't go past these guys. For some reason (??) some of their stuff is very expensive on CD. This CD comp of "Freeze Frame...Plus + Ismism...Plus" goes for 50 Euros. I'm glad I got mine when it came out
Lee Wrecker 21st Aug 2017		CD Album The Beatles - Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band (1987)	A 1987 CD now I'm not a sound engineer but I reckon any clean vinyl version would obliterate it for sound quality. Rarity takes many forms and a "no barcode" early poor sound quality CD doesn't really intrigue me at all. I suppose that's the pull of the name The Beatles on anything - I'm talking to you Mojo and Uncut magazine as well.
Lee Wrecker 20th Aug 2017		CD Album Neil Young And The Shocking Pinks - Everybody's Rockin' (2000)	Leonard, I agree that there should be both but it does make a mockery of the guidelines when contributors and MODS alike are using there own systems or preferences and not following the guidelines. The sleeping dogs and sacred cows live on as the guidelines fly away in the breeze.
Lee Wrecker 20th Aug 2017		CD Album Neil Young And The Shocking Pinks - Everybody's Rockin' (2000)	You're right Leonard this is the USA release. I think Apollo59 was just saying his Canadian copy had the same details as this. There are some pics of the Canadian release here that prove this to be correct. So international according to our guidelines unless they don't apply to the USA and Canada which seems to the case more often than not. I'm not looking for an argument on this I'm just stating what I see happening on the site in regard to the countries concerned. Apologies for the link the insert link feature is not working on the comment box for some reason.
Lee Wrecker 20th Aug 2017		CD Album Neil Young And The Shocking Pinks - Everybody's Rockin' (2000)	Hey Apollo59 don't go disturbing the sacred cows of USA and Canadian releases. Yes, many of the herd have the same brand, cat#, label and bar code but these are distinctly different beasts on 45Worlds. If we were to follow the guidelines here all hell would break lose or could we have a new North America region added to the countries. I've just added an LP that uses North America as the only reference to country so things could get more complicated than they already are. Let sleeping dogs lie is perhaps the easiest option?
Lee Wrecker 17th Aug 2017		CD Album U2 - The Joshua Tree (1990)	What an awful job they've done on the 1987 cover of this one (all the linked versions are the same). The linked 2007 edition is the only cover that looks right but these 1987 releases with the band photo distorted so they all have pixilated elongated heads is dreadful.
Lee Wrecker 16th Aug 2017		CD Album John Entwistle - Boris The Spider (2001)	DIsky actually made discs in Australia too Leonard which is a bit weird, this Specials release is an example. The cover is printed in Holland though so this is a dual citizen of sorts. I agree though, that it makes more sense in general if the CD was made in the EU but what about my album? I listed it as Australian on the strength that the CD was made in Australia and has a different cat# on the disc. Should I change it?
Lee Wrecker 14th Aug 2017		CD Album The Waterboys - Fisherman's Blues (1995)	ppint I thought you had to apply for the international CD rights badge at anorak level underneath a Subway outlet. You certainly do need to get your head around some otherwise useless shit to find your way around CD Albums world. Oh no, here comes the BIEM rights express en route to 59 different countries at the same time. Look out! Added link to the wiki page that lists these countries.
Lee Wrecker 13th Aug 2017		CD Album The Who - Shakin' All Over	That's right Apollo59 and this is a reissue of the vinyl 1975 Fillmore East 68 bootleg (LP) (TMOQ 71071) which is not yet listed here. I've uploaded a mid 70's reboot but the real thing is eluding us so far. You wouldn't happen to have one would you? I'd rate this in the top 3 bootlegs I have or have ever heard. The sound is good and you can feel the atmosphere of the crowd but the band is on fire. I prefer it to Live At Leeds and that's saying something.
Lee Wrecker 13th Aug 2017		CD Album The Waterboys - Fisherman's Blues (1995)	Added Booklet scans for shuffling into place and sent a correction to have the date removed. There is no image for Booklet 2 as this page is plain white so I didn't bother to scan it. I will refuse to reveal where this CD was bought, other than in a shop, in the interests of not complicating things any further. The only reason I pulled out the booklet was to see if there was anything there that would indicate a definite release date but as you can see there are no clues at all. So I just thought I'd scan it up so we have everything on the page while we deliberate over this one. It's not much help though other than confirming there's no date on the packaging and what to do about Apollo59's version still has me completely stumped. My preference at this stage would be to list them separately as a UK (Apollo59's) and EU (this one) releases even though they have the same cat#, barcode, label and even come from the same EMI Swindon plant. EMI's Swindon plant has a lot to answer for because not only did they engage in this kind of palaver but they also shipped clear glass all over the world. These would then be stamped wherever they landed and released as a local copy. So manufactured in or made in sometimes really means assembled in and the same glass can appear anywhere in the world. Looks like the Matrix numbers hold the key but that will be a bridge too far for most site users entering a CD. This one is a classic example of how treacherous it can be when you dip your toe into the waters of CD Albums World.
Lee Wrecker 12th Aug 2017		CD Album The Waterboys - Fisherman's Blues (1995)	Looks like a combination of the two listed already Apollo59 but neither one nor the other. It's hard to know what to do with any certainty. Looks like more of a giant whole in the system rather than a crack from way down yonder in New Holland. Are you sure the matrix is 321589 3 and not 3215892 3 (the cat# in a string plus a space and a 3). Regardless, the matrix on this copy is different 3215892 4 as you can see on the scan of the disc itself. I think that would indicate that these are in fact different releases but as to reasons behind it I've no idea. Perhaps there was a local UK version and an EU version made using the same basic details which doesn't really help us here. Is gregs 78s about? He's good on these finer details for UK/EU releases. Now, where's that Mr. Marmalade bloke and his magic pipe it's time for puff and a ponder. I'll be back in a couple of hours.
Lee Wrecker 12th Aug 2017		CD Album The Waterboys - Fisherman's Blues (1995)	Should we remove the date then, Leonard? I'm not sure how it got there because there's nothing on the CD to indicate 1990 only references to 1988 like the original but as you point out it must be post 1995. Apollo59 although this disc is made in the UK it actually states Made in the EU on the actual disc and the disc carries two cat#s the UK cat# of the original release linked below and this cat# CDP 3215892. So when entering this and comparing it to the one already listed the Made in the EU and presence of the new/different cat# CDP 32 1589 and different barcode indicate that it was made for a wider distribution than just the UK. Plus, the BEL rights on the CD indicate that it would be a European release as Leonard has pointed out.
Lee Wrecker 11th Aug 2017		CD Album Elton John - Don't Shoot Me I'm Only The Piano Player (1996)	Thanks Phil, excellent work as always.
Lee Wrecker 11th Aug 2017		CD Album Elton John - Don't Shoot Me I'm Only The Piano Player (1996)	So I was just intrigued by the discrepancies in the name of the label across the pond. On the date Discwrongs are not to be trusted at all just as they don't trust us at all (see link). My view is that an Island catalogue or Billboard entry would be a more reliable indicator. The also unreliable Wikipedia has the dates of release the opposite to way you have listed them below. So, I suppose we need to wait for more conclusive evidence before we decide to alter the date here.
Lee Wrecker 11th Aug 2017		CD Album Elton John - Don't Shoot Me I'm Only The Piano Player (1996)	Seems "The Rocket Record Company" relaunched (cringe) as just Rocket Records in 1995 when distribution changed from RCA to Island in the USA. Or was the label just known as "Rocket" on RCA as well? The Mercury releases would most likely be from the UK (could be EU but let's not get intro that) as they took over distributorship from Phonogram in 1995 but kept the name "The Rocket Record Company" the same as it always was.
Lee Wrecker 11th Aug 2017		CD Album The Jam - Sound Affects (1990)	Are you sure you're using them correctly, Magic? I know it was too easy but couldn't resist an old joke.
Lee Wrecker 11th Aug 2017		CD Album The Jam - Sound Affects (1990)	It also has BIEM / STEMRA rights on the CD which would make it an international or at least EU release. Perhaps they meant Made for instead of Made by? CDs aren't they wonderful?

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