Cassette Album - The Beatles - Revolver - EMI

Tape Media: Cassette Album

Artist:	The Beatles
Title:	Revolver
Format:	Cassette Album
Label:	EMI
Country:	UK
Catalogue:	TC-PCS 7009 / IE 262 O 04097
Date:	1972
Collection:	I Own It I Want It
Community:	5 Own, 2 Want
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Track

Artist

Title

Composer

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Side 1

The Beatles

Good Day Sunshine

Lennon, McCartney

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The Beatles

And Your Bird Can Sing

Lennon, McCartney

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The Beatles

Doctor Robert

Lennon, McCartney

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The Beatles

Want To Tell You

Harrison

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The Beatles

Taxman

Harrison

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The Beatles

I'm Only Sleeping

Lennon, McCartney

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The Beatles

Yellow Submarine

Lennon, McCartney

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Side 2

The Beatles

Eleanor Rigby

Lennon, McCartney

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The Beatles

Here, There And Everywhere

Lennon, McCartney

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The Beatles

For No One

Lennon, McCartney

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The Beatles

Got To Get You Into My Life

Lennon, McCartney

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The Beatles

Love You To

Harrison

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The Beatles

She Said She Said

Lennon, McCartney

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The Beatles

Tomorrow Never Knows

Lennon, McCartney

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Notes

Second edition with gold inlay, introduced in 1972.

The inner gives info about who sang lead on which song (as did the LP). "Want To Tell You" is written correctly, according to the cassette inlay (the LP states: "I Want To Tell You"). Note that the cassette itself includes the "I...".

The cassette's running order, like many of the EMI cassette and 8-track issues of Beatles LPs, re-arranges the running order of the tracks, which of course played havoc with your mind (and childhood memories) when discovering the real vinyl LPs...

Images

Number: 205494

THUMBNAIL
Uploaded By: BiggieTembo
Description: inlay, front

Number: 205495

Uploaded By: BiggieTembo
Description: inlay foldet out, front

Number: 205496

Uploaded By: BiggieTembo
Description: inlay reverse

Number: 205497

Uploaded By: BiggieTembo
Description: tape, side 1

Comments and Reviews


BiggieTembo 18th Jun 2014		Yep it's all much better and clearer - great job guys ;-)



TopPopper 18th Jun 2014		No problem. I know there was some debate over how to deal with the Beatles cassettes, but in the end the mods agreed that they should be separated into the three editions. (We did the same with the reissue vinyl singles, even when the cat numbers were unchanged, because the packaging is significantly different.) I think if you now click on Beatles and look at the UK tapes, the chronology is much clearer. Of course variants of these gold editions can all go together - we don't need a new page every time!



BiggieTembo 18th Jun 2014		Thx Top P ;-)



TopPopper 18th Jun 2014		Original contributor notes: 1 cassette; white plastic shell, printed with blue ink. Dolby B. 1 inlay; "Gold" series (light-gold variety); with "G&L" printer identification on inner flap, and capital letters for the "THIS STEREO MUSICCASSETTE..." stereo/mono information on the reverse of the back flap. Light-gold inlay, blue-ink on cassette... It all points to a 77-82 release date, which is good - I bought it in '81.



bobzyeruncle 30th Mar 2014		[Quote: YankeeDisc] " an inlay card with a random tea stain gets it own separate submission - I kid you not, similar faux pas have happened." Only if it's Fortnum & Mason tea. In that case, the possibility of The Prince Of Wales being the previous owner could be hinted at by the seller. :laugh:



YankeeDisc SUBS 27th Mar 2014		"I always thought that the overall gold finish inlay card was available from early 1970s" I didn't mean to start a firestorm, but can you confirm that this particular UK release TC-PCS 7009 will reside on this age, with all the aforementioned variants, (earlier and later) sharing this same page - please let's not go down the discogs route where an inlay card with a random tea stain gets it own separate submission - I kid you not, similar faux pas have happened. BiggieTembo (what a guy!) jogged my memory of the first issue gold print inlay cards, that got smeared with the natural oils present on our hands - laugh, I nearly fell off my horse. I only got into the Record Industry in late 1973, and was then knee deep in thousands of cassettes, where I took notice. Before that time I had been an ordinary punter, and had a meagre selection of pre-recorded cassettes from no earlier than 1968. I always bought albums, had a cassette deck, bought blank C-60 etc. cassettes and recorded them for use in the car, etc. I concur with PhilMH and think the release date should be changed to first known issue date. The scans can be edited with information so that there is no mistake which version you're looking at, even if the submitting member just enters "shell-front", or "inlay card". Mentioned in Dispatches for jordansongs.....



BiggieTembo 27th Mar 2014		Magic!



nboldock ● 27th Mar 2014		Biggie - just so you are aware, we Mods can (and will) re-order images on an entry if they need to be moved around. This is a straightforward thing to do. Users can't do it but you can always use the "Make Correction" button if you notice anything in the wrong order and let us know. :-) Oh, and composers need to be separated by a comma, so it should be "Lennon, McCartney" (regardless of how it is printed on the sleeve etc). We'll alter these at some point.



BiggieTembo 27th Mar 2014		Hey JordanSongs it sounds positive - we need to be able to categorize past and later releases in some way, and correct and shift around if there's some discrepancies. That way we can really get much closer to which came after what and why and how and so forth, etc. ;)



jordansongs 27th Mar 2014		I would suggest then that there are two distinct issues of the Beatles cassettes. If we use the aforementioned website as a guide (unless there is any more reliable information) then the first phase would be: 1968 - Sgt Pepper Late 1969 - Abbey Road (May?) 1970 - Let It Be Sep 1970 - Rubber Soul, Revolver, Oldies But Goldies Oct 1970 - Please Please Me, With The Beatles, A Hard Days Night, Beatles For Sale, Help! Mid 1971 - White Album The 1972 gold editions should then be listed as repressings under these entries. In addition to these you also have Magical Mystery Tour (issued in 1973) and Yellow Submarine (issued in 1974). Then you would have the second phase issues in 1987 with the corrected track listings as new entries (which, by and large, I think they already are). What are your thoughts Beatles peeps?



BiggieTembo 27th Mar 2014		Thanks for clarification, Orbiting Cat, but will it not look like a right mess, chronologically? What if, for example, the first upload of the Revolver cassette to this website was a 1987 XDR type? If I had an earlier one, say a 1972 issue, then this would be illustrated as images tacked onto the image collection below the main text - therefore, after the newest set. Then if someone else had a copy that was released in-between of those two, then it would come chronologically "after" again, and so on... Now I'm not expecting you guys to go out and re-program the whole site, but the added notes don't really serve as a connected historiography of the releases. It would be great if a feature could be implimented where you could place the succesive releases in some sort of order ;-) Bit of constructive feedback there ;-) Bigs



Orbiting Cat 27th Mar 2014		Agreed that it's good this discussion is happening! nboldock and PhilMH capture the idea of 45worlds: there's a single page for a item, and a new page is created if the item's label or catalogue number changes. So with the Beatles tapes, the page will have the original release day (60s), and then images can be added of all the different sleeves, in date order. The notes could list details of each change in the sleeve/cassette shell.



BiggieTembo 27th Mar 2014		Hey guys, such great discussions going on! I see what you mean though – The website needs to be more detailed to illustrate the successive issues of each release. It’s particularly problematic for the Beatles’ cassettes because, as you’ll see with the ones that I am uploading, which stem from the era 1980-1982, that there are many older-type reprinted inlays housing newer cassette shell designs. So how do you date that? Also, I’ve noticed that the ”one-entry” style of this website doesn’t do previous or later issues justice, which is really what ”domestic archaeology” sites like these are all about. I understand that it’s confusing, and I understand too that you can’t please everybody, but programming a feature on the website to differentiate between releases of the same item would clear up discussions such as these – and it’s there that the real research and historical story of these items would come to light. Many thanks for your comments, Jordansongs. There’s more Beatles to come ;-) Biggie



nboldock ● 27th Mar 2014		If a catalogue number changes - new entry. If a tracklisting (or running order) changes - new entry. Generally the guideline is that subsequent issues with same cat no and tracks go under the original entry. There are some exceptions to this. If we know a specific re-release (not just a repress but a distinct re-release date) we can in some cases enter a new entry if there is sufficient justification for it - this does happen with the Beatles over on 45Cat as they were deemed a special case; and the release dates are easy to pinpoint in most cases. It would be sensible with this band at least to replicate that on the other worlds IF we can do so accurately. The other exception is on CD Album World, where you will note there is now a barcode field - a new entry is required for a differently barcoded CD, so things work a little differently over there as in most cases it will mean a new entry for each issue of a CD (as they'll have different barcode / EAN numbers). Actually with regards to the Beatles we have at least two moderators who are somewhat expert in matters of the Fabs, so really they should oversee this as they're best placed to do so.



jordansongs 27th Mar 2014		I agree to a large extent Phil, but I was also thinking of how the Beatles 45s are presented on 45cat. All the original singles were reissued with the same catalogue numbers but with new packaging in 1976 and again in 1982. All of these are listed separately on 45cat. The first edition of TC-PCS 7009 would appear to have been in September 1970 (with the white inlays), so it could make sense to have that as the release date and have the gold editions as later pressings under the same entry. But then, what do you do with the 1987 issues which had the same catalogue numbers but with the track listings reverted back to correspond with their vinyl counterparts? Pesky Beatles complicating things again!



PhilMH 27th Mar 2014		Hi jordansongs, some of what you say would make sense if this site was Discogs, which catalogues all the pressing variations with separate entries and release dates, but it isn't. My understanding of the concept for all these worlds (45cat, etc) is that all versions for the same label and catalogue number go under one entry, with the release date to be entered being the original release date. From that linked site, it would appear that the original release date for Parlophone TC-PCS 7009 would have been in 1968 or 1969, and all variations would be added to one entry. Even if there were a minor change in the alpha prefix, as long as it is still Parlophone 7009, it could be added under the same original entry. However, if there were to be an issue on Apple TC-PCS 7009, that would warrant a separate entry because it is released on a different label (and the same principle would apply to Beatles LP's/cassettes originally on Apple being re-pressed on Parlophone or Capitol). Mods/admins: if I've got any of the above wrong, please advise, but that was how I thought these sites worked.



jordansongs 27th Mar 2014		According to this great site all the Beatles albums were reissued on cassette with gold inlays in 1972, replacing the earlier white inlays, most of which appeared in 1970. Wouldn't it make more sense to list all the gold editions as 1972 releases? They were in production for around fifteen years so there are going to be many minor changes in inlay shades and cassette shells, it could get confusing if a new entry were made for each subtle variation. So far Biggie has done great work in uploading Sgt Pepper, Let It Be, With The Beatles as well as this one. Perhaps it would be better to list these all as 1972 releases and then any variations can be uploaded under one entry? Just a thought!



PhilMH 27th Mar 2014		This particular copy might be 1978, but shouldn't the date entered here be the date that this was first released under this label and catalogue number? Music Master says September 1966 for both the LP and cassette (though I'm not absolutely sure whether EMI had cassettes then), but certainly no later than 1976, because TC-PCS 7009 is listed in the EMI main catalogue for that year.



BiggieTembo 27th Mar 2014		You're right, Yankee, but this is a lighter-gold, which points to somewhere around 78-80, according to which printer did the job. Garrod and Lofthouse in this case, as you say. There were Gold inlays from c. 72 onwards, as you mention, with paper labels on the cassettes - these were the "metallic" gold ones that would get covered in your lovely finger-grease (see any "62-66" inlay from this period, and you'll know what I mean...) but as my copy has a cassette of direct-blue-printed ink on a white shell, I would suggest a late 70s-vintage.



YankeeDisc SUBS 27th Mar 2014		Inlay card made and printed by Garrod & Lofthouse Ltd (G & L) I always thought that the overall gold finish inlay card was available from early 1970s, but matched with paper details stuck onto each side of the cassette shell.



BiggieTembo 26th Mar 2014		Oh yeah. Never noticed that. They probably didn't give a toss, concentrating mostly on the mono mixings of their tracks in the control room, and the cover art of their LPs. And going to gigs. And taking acid with Peter Fonda. And swanning about with Jane Asher. In Mini's. And all the other diversions that Pop Stars get up to when living in Swinging London in 1966.



TopPopper 26th Mar 2014		"Good Day Sunshine" at the start, then all the rest of Macca's songs are sequenced together on side 2. I wonder if the Beatles ever expressed any views on this? I can't imagine they or George Martin would have been too happy with it.