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  14th Jan 2014, 10:39 AM#1  REPORT  
Brisbane 1960s archivists

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Because of the size of LPs, I will be getting an A3 scanner soon enough to add obscure LPs like 'Definitely PleaZers' and 'The Scene in Northern Victoria' etc.

Edited by Stampy on 14th Jan 2014, 10:39 AM

  14th Jan 2014, 10:56 AM#2  REPORT  
nboldock

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Excellent! :cool:


  14th Jan 2014, 12:06 PM#3  REPORT  
Orbiting Cat

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A3 scanners give excellent results. For those of us without a scanner, cameras or iPhones give acceptable results too.


  14th Jan 2014, 1:15 PM#4  REPORT  
getalife

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Orbiting Cat wrote:
A3 scanners give excellent results. For those of us without a scanner, cameras or iPhones give acceptable results too.




OC, have we a section for new members about how to do cover scans using Microsoft ICE, I know it’s staring me in the face, but can not see the wood for the trees?. :embarrassed:


  14th Jan 2014, 2:33 PM#5  REPORT  
Orbiting Cat

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getalife wrote:
Orbiting Cat wrote:
A3 scanners give excellent results. For those of us without a scanner, cameras or iPhones give acceptable results too.

OC, have we a section for new members about how to do cover scans using Microsoft ICE, I know it’s staring me in the face, but can not see the wood for the trees?. :embarrassed:

No, but that could be a good forum post. We want the image guidelines for Vinyl Albums to make it clear that photos are fine, so as to encourage more people. But scans using an A3 scanner or ICE photo stitching are superb and very much valued.


  14th Jan 2014, 2:40 PM#6  REPORT  
nboldock

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I've been toying with volunteering to write a guide to images, though I wouldn't be able to do it alone as I only use GIMP (so would need some input from users of Paint.NET and probably Photoshop as well).

I might be able to get to that at some point soon if someone else can volunteer to add some info on the other graphics packages (i.e. how to fix perspective and crop and so on) that we can then pull together into one sticky guide.

I've already had a message from a pal of mine this afternoon (as a result of my Facebook post advertising LP World) who is a long-time user on 45Cat (The Bensons) but hasn't started on Worlds because he's unsure of how to do LP covers without an A3 scanner. I've pointed him towards the Forums but I guess we could do with a proper "sticky" guide that covers it all in one place, perhaps.


  14th Jan 2014, 4:15 PM#7  REPORT  
getalife

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You have my full support nboldock :thumbsup: , hope this will help in some way. It’s to long to PM you. :whistle:


Using Paint.net and A4 scanner:

Scan top of Album cover, placing to top left corner of scanner and moving back a bit to show edge when scanned, then do the same placing top right hand corner, repeat doing the bottom half of cover upside down, after, rotate the bottom two scans 180 degrees and then save each one with a JPEG file name, A1,A2,A3,A4.

Open Microsoft ICE, select “New Panorama”, from your saved folder select A1,A2,A3,A4 and “open”,
ICE will then position the images into one image, you can then crop to size and export to disc , save with the file name given, then exit ICE and go to Paint.net , Open folder and click on the new image, re-crop if need to, then re-size to 650 pixels and save.

Add Album to “Vinyl Album World”.


I know what I mean, fill free to make it more understandable. :embarrassed:

Edited by getalife on 14th Jan 2014, 4:21 PM

  14th Jan 2014, 4:28 PM#8  REPORT  
nboldock

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Excellent.

I'm at a conference for the next couple of days from tomorrow morning (joy of joys) so I won't be around much this week; it isn't something I'd be doing imminently.


  14th Jan 2014, 6:35 PM#9  REPORT  
getalife

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nboldock wrote:
Excellent.

I'm at a conference for the next couple of days from tomorrow morning (joy of joys) so I won't be around much this week; it isn't something I'd be doing imminently.



Excuses, Excuses, Excuses, always one who volunteers thinking no one will take them up with the offer, I would offer but I’m off on holiday for the next month or so. :whistle:


  14th Jan 2014, 10:18 PM#10  REPORT  
Brisbane 1960s archivists

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Hi all,

I am a member of Midoztouch, now I'm not talking about mps, WAV or FLAC files, but the guidelines in doing album covers, here is there guidelines; 'First please note I did not do this myself, I found this somewhere out on the great big world wide web

To complaint here either, just a tip (if you own an A4 scanner): I've recently found out it's really easy to use a program like Autopano Giga 2 for seamlessly merging scans into one "big" scan.
So for example if I want to scan in an LP cover, I make 4 scans of it, each from a different corner so that all scans have overlapping areas. Then I load those scans into Autopano, and after a few clicks here and there (the program is self-explanatory) I get a merged scan. That scan I load into Paint Shop Pro for (sometimes) pincushion distortion correction and a bit of picture cropping, and the result looks just like an A3 scan.
Hope it is of use to someone

Enjoy

Yours valanion'


and

'If you have Photoshop it has has a great stitching feature for album scans. (File/Automate/Photomerge then select Reposition Only and upload your images and click ok). Voila.

What i want to know is, what's the recommended size for artwork to be uploaded? What is the correct size in inches (or whatever) and the best resolution etc..

Ive got some albums i can upload but need some advice about this.

Thanks in advance.'



  15th Jan 2014, 8:04 AM#11  REPORT  
getalife

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Stampy wrote:
Hi all,

What i want to know is, what's the recommended size for artwork to be uploaded? What is the correct size in inches (or whatever) and the best resolution etc..

Ive got some albums i can upload but need some advice about this.

Thanks in advance.'[/b]


In Paint.net, I use:

Width = 700 pixels
Height = 700 pixels ( which ever one comes first, 700x670 or 650x700)
Resolution = 300 pixels/inch


  15th Jan 2014, 9:39 AM#12  REPORT  
sladesounds

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Stampy

I have an A3+ scanner but I still need to take 2 scans and merge them. An A3 scanner makes it easier but it will not scan a 12x12" cover in one go.

I use photoshop photomerge and also Microsoft ICE (which is free).

After stitching, editing etc. I save the jpg files as 800 x 800 at 300pixels/inch reducing the quality to meet the 250kb file size (normally the setting is around 95).

My only gripe about ICE is that the maximum resolution that you can export a stitched file to is 96 whereas I would normally set it at 300 but then it is free. Photoshop is brilliant but obviously it has to be bought.

Steve

Edited by sladesounds on 15th Jan 2014, 9:39 AM

  15th Jan 2014, 9:45 AM#13  REPORT  
Brisbane 1960s archivists

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sladesounds wrote:
Stampy

I have an A3+ scanner but I still need to take 2 scans and merge them. An A3 scanner makes it easier but it will not scan a 12x12" cover in one go.

I use photoshop photomerge and also Microsoft ICE (which is free).

After stitching, editing etc. I save the jpg files as 800 x 800 at 300pixels/inch reducing the quality to meet the 250kb file size (normally the setting is around 95).

My only gripe about ICE is that the maximum resolution that you can export a stitched file to is 96 whereas I would normally set it at 300 but then it is free. Photoshop is brilliant but obviously it has to be bought.

Steve

Thanks Steve, I have photoshop, bought it in '07. I will still need an A3 scanner due to me scanning my collection of Everybody's magazine DISC section.


  15th Jan 2014, 6:41 PM#14  REPORT  
nboldock

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getalife wrote:
nboldock wrote:
Excellent.

I'm at a conference for the next couple of days from tomorrow morning (joy of joys) so I won't be around much this week; it isn't something I'd be doing imminently.



Excuses, Excuses, Excuses, always one who volunteers thinking no one will take them up with the offer, I would offer but I’m off on holiday for the next month or so. :whistle:

Believe it or not I have just done the haka with four real Maoris. :eek:

"Team building..."




  15th Mar 2014, 11:05 PM#15  REPORT  
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sladesounds wrote:
My only gripe about ICE is that the maximum resolution that you can export a stitched file to is 96 whereas I would normally set it at 300 but then it is free.

I just saw your comment here, and I have to say that I've been using ICE for a couple of years and have never run up against this 96 dpi resolution limit. I regularly do 300 dpi stitches in the program, so I'm not sure what to tell you about how to get higher resolution. My scans are done at 300, and the stitch ends up being 300.

I work in .png format, which is lossless compression for images, so there is no loss of quality during retouching and resaving. For posting them to the web, I will resave a copy of the master image in .jpg.


  22nd Feb 2020, 12:15 AM#16  REPORT  
mister_tmg

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I'm pleased to have discovered the A3 scanner at my local library, which really takes the hassle out of scanning 10" 78s. If you live near a public library, try this. I decided to up the resolution from 300 to 600 dpi though, as I didn't think 300 looked as good as it could.


  22nd Feb 2020, 8:37 AM#17  REPORT  
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I've added hundreds of images (L/P covers) here using ICE from A4 scans that have been set at 300 or 400 dpi with really good results. I set the scale to 50% prior to exporting, and then use Gimp to crop, rotate and resize and then save in jpg format


  22nd Feb 2020, 10:04 AM#18  REPORT  
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Im getting shot of my Epson WF 7515 A3+ scanner printer and looking into buying something like THIS Looking to save some space and this looks ideal


  22nd Feb 2020, 12:29 PM#19  REPORT  
getalife

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If you do get it let us know how you what it like.


  23rd Feb 2020, 8:08 AM#20  REPORT  
JPGR&B SUBS

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Quad5point1 wrote:
Im getting shot of my Epson WF 7515 A3+ scanner printer and looking into buying something like THIS Looking to save some space and this looks ideal

I’ve been thinking about one of those machines too, but reading the reviews they suggest the quality of the images might not be high enough for LP sleeves and not provide the precision a flatbed scanner provides.


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