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  23rd Feb 2020, 9:58 AM#21  REPORT  
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I’ve been thinking about one of those machines too, but reading the reviews they suggest the quality of the images might not be high enough for LP sleeves and not provide the precision a flatbed scanner provides. [/quote]
JPGR&B wrote:
Quad5point1 wrote:
Im getting shot of my Epson WF 7515 A3+ scanner printer and looking into buying something like THIS Looking to save some space and this looks ideal

Took the plunge and bought the CZUR ET16. Will be here Tuesday so we'll see how well it performs.




  24th Feb 2020, 2:16 AM#22  REPORT  
mister_tmg

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The British Library uses overhead scanners. I haven't found any problem with their scans so far, but I haven't tried anything large on them yet.


  24th Feb 2020, 2:26 PM#23  REPORT  
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Please let us know how you get on, I have been looking at one of these myself.
Interested to know if there are any issues with glare from the overhead light etc.


  24th Feb 2020, 4:32 PM#24  REPORT  
getalife

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sladesounds wrote:

Interested to know if there are any issues with glare from the overhead light etc.


Is that why you wear a headscaf .


  24th Feb 2020, 6:00 PM#25  REPORT  
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sladesounds wrote:
Please let us know how you get on, I have been looking at one of these myself.
Interested to know if there are any issues with glare from the overhead light etc.

Will be here tomorrow so we'll see how it goes. I have been reading about this particular model online and they do mention the glare but they also say that CZUR have corrected it with "Side Lights", don't exactly know what that is but I contacted the seller to ask. Told them I would be scanning glossy images and asked about the lights, the answer came bac

Thanks for the message and order.

Yes, the ET16 Plus comes with the LED side light which can help to reduce/avoid the reflections when scanning glossy pager based book/documents, please do not worry.

Just a matter of trying I suppose and see what happens


  26th Feb 2020, 2:12 PM#26  REPORT  
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sladesounds wrote:
Please let us know how you get on, I have been looking at one of these myself.
Interested to know if there are any issues with glare from the overhead light etc.

1st scan results are in, I did THIS sleeve because it was still beside the computer from entering a few weeks back. With the overhead lights there was glare but with them switched off and the side lights deployed the glare disappeared, enjoy :smile:

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  26th Feb 2020, 3:25 PM#27  REPORT  
getalife

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A much better result, have place top and deleted old one.


  26th Feb 2020, 4:45 PM#28  REPORT  
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JPGR&B wrote:
Quad5point1 wrote:
Im getting shot of my Epson WF 7515 A3+ scanner printer and looking into buying something like THIS Looking to save some space and this looks ideal


I’ve been thinking about one of those machines too, but reading the reviews they suggest the quality of the images might not be high enough for LP sleeves and not provide the precision a flatbed scanner provides.


I think the resolution is pretty good, all in all I'm very happy with the result and it all folds away back in the box out of the way which is great for my wife, keeps everybody happy :thumbsup:


  27th Feb 2020, 9:20 AM#29  REPORT  
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I might give one of these machines a go.

A3 is officially a little bit too small for an LP sleeve but it looks like it's managed to get in the whole sleeve fine.

I bought a digital camera / tripod style arrangement last year and the results were mixed and not worth the set up / image transfer times.

Just using an iphone still seems to be the quickest but the older I get the more shakey and squint the images get.

:grin:


  28th Feb 2020, 12:26 AM#30  REPORT  
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You couldn't better the image for your Bentine album and I'd like one of those scanners, even before my A3 scanner has expired, because you don't need to ICE-stitch anything. I can't find a Czer ET16 with the side light on Amazon or eBay. On both the cheapest Czer is more than £300 so I'll be waiting until the price is around £100 with the side light


  28th Feb 2020, 1:21 PM#31  REPORT  
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Juke Jules wrote:
You couldn't better the image for your Bentine album and I'd like one of those scanners, even before my A3 scanner has expired, because you don't need to ICE-stitch anything. I can't find a Czer ET16 with the side light on Amazon or eBay. On both the cheapest Czer is more than £300 so I'll be waiting until the price is around £100 with the side light

I thought it was a good price myself. After looking into a decent quality Epson A3 standalone scanner the prices were £1000+ and as we already know, won't scan album sleeves without having to stitch multiple scans. I think also if you are looking to buy something like this then the better quality ones are always going to be expensive. You can get cheap versions of the CZUR but I think you'd be running into the glare problem with them and as I mentioned before, it all folds away back into the box which isn't that big and can be easily stored.


  28th Feb 2020, 10:06 PM#32  REPORT  
Fokeman

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Dr Doom wrote:
I might give one of these machines a go.
...

Just using an iphone still seems to be the quickest but the older I get the more shakey and squint the images get.

:grin:

I am getting better at Iphone images for albums. I use the square option so that I get the shape of the cover fairly square before I start. Also, it's worth working out exactly where your camera is on the phone and making sure it's exactly in the middle of the sleeve before lining up.


  29th Feb 2020, 3:11 PM#33  REPORT  
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Got THIS in a junk shop today and added a complete set of scans for it. I did the labels as well so definitely no resolution issues with the scans


  29th Feb 2020, 5:18 PM#34  REPORT  
Fokeman

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Quadpoint you've done a really nice job. I would recommend just removing the last margin of the black around the edges if possible, though?


  29th Feb 2020, 5:54 PM#35  REPORT  
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Fokeman wrote:
Quadpoint you've done a really nice job. I would recommend just removing the last margin of the black around the edges if possible, though?

Yep I could do that OK, Still finding my feet with the best way of doing things with the scanner. New scans added if a mod can re-jig them. Thanks

Edited by Quad5point1 on 29th Feb 2020, 6:01 PM

  27th Mar 2020, 9:09 PM#36  REPORT  
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Quad5point1 wrote:
Juke Jules wrote:
You couldn't better the image for your Bentine album and I'd like one of those scanners, even before my A3 scanner has expired, because you don't need to ICE-stitch anything. I can't find a Czer ET16 with the side light on Amazon or eBay. On both the cheapest Czer is more than £300 so I'll be waiting until the price is around £100 with the side light

I think also if you are looking to buy something like this then the better quality ones are always going to be expensive. You can get cheap versions of the CZUR but I think you'd be running into the glare problem with them and as I mentioned before, it all folds away back into the box which isn't that big and can be easily stored.

Just checked the price for the CZUR and it went up in price like I predicted, now gone up to £389 from £349

Edited by Quad5point1 on 27th Mar 2020, 9:17 PM

  28th Mar 2020, 9:46 AM#37  REPORT  
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Went up another £10 overnight, now £399 !!!


  2nd Apr 2020, 8:04 PM#38  REPORT  
albert

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Looking at that machine gave me an idea for a DIY equivalent, which should only cost a few quid. - In my kitchen there are overhead cupboards with a bench below, it therefore wouldn't take much effort to attach a bracket on the underside of the cupboard to hold a camera or mobile phone, lighting could be attached too.
...this is going to be sooo easy. A mobile phone cover only costs a few quid, take out the holding clip and attach to underside of cupboard with glue, lay down some tape markers on the bench and take a few shots, adjust markers as necessary. Job done!

Regarding Epson A3 scanners: The cheaper models such as the GT-15000 can scan an area 297 x 432 mm. The more expensive models such as the 12000XL can scan an area 310 x 437 mm (12.2 x 17.2 inches) which captures the bulk of most LP sleeves in one sweep - trouble is that expensive means over £2000. The one I grabbed was a cheaper model, it did look identical to the more costly ones so I took a change but unfortunately the scanning area has been limited to be exactly A3. It looks like Epson just switch the processing board (and maybe the optics) on their cheaper models, be careful when buying.


Edited by albert on 10th Mar 2021, 12:42 AM

  2nd Apr 2020, 9:26 PM#39  REPORT  
getalife

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albert wrote:
Looking at that machine gave me an idea for a DIY equivalent, which should only cost a few quid. - In my kitchen there are overhead cupboards with a bench below, it therefore wouldn't take much effort to attach a bracket on the underside of the cupboard to hold a camera or mobile phone, lighting could be attached too.
...this is going to be sooo easy. A mobile phone cover only costs a few quid, take out the holding clip and attach to underside of cupboard with glue, lay down some tape markers on the bench and take a few shots, adjust markers as necessary. Job done!

Good idea, double sided tape would save using glue.


  3rd Apr 2020, 1:49 PM#40  REPORT  
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Just tried firing up my scanner again... and the thin coloured stripes (mainly yellow) that had begun to appear on the scans, running the length of the image have now become thick bars of yellow...

Must be dust, as I read somewhere this is causing my lamp to calibrate the white balance wrongly on start up, and carry that difference in contrast all down the page when it scans... so I'm going to have to crack it open and try the recommended fix of sticking a new white piece of paper on the underside of the glass, where the scanner takes the white balance from before setting off.

Now... how to get into the bloody thing!?!

(I know - the window... Look out below!) :grin:


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