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| 5th Aug 2014, 10:32 PM | #1 REPORT | |
 | Orbiting Cat Member since Jan 2008 1176 Points Administrator | We've launched a beta test of a new world: Classical Music. This world is for any item of music that fits the definition of classical music. All formats are accepted, from 78 to CD Album. This is a more specialised world, so there are some extra database fields: composer, conductor, orchestra and soloist. So eg you can browse all items composed by Beethoven, or conducted by the Berlin Philharmonic Orchestra. Note that items are shown in reverse chronological order, so newer CDs are shown first, and older 78s from last century are shown last. If a record label or sub-label deals exclusively with Classical music then it may make sense to list them on classical world (i.e. Deutsche Gramophone) For labels which mix classical music with other non classical music it's fine to add the items to both worlds. The world has already been in private testing, and a few hundred items have already been added. If you have any questions about this world, then please reply in this forum topic. Take a look! http://www.45worlds.com/classical Edited by moderator on 6th Aug 2014, 10:34 AM |
| 5th Aug 2014, 11:50 PM | #2 REPORT | |
 | Trainman Trainman Member since Jun 2014 2559 Points Moderator | I've been waiting with bated breath |
| 6th Aug 2014, 1:07 AM | #3 REPORT | |
| Trainman Trainman Member since Jun 2014 2559 Points Moderator | OK, I entered a couple (and screwed one up already!), a few thoughts. Listing the artist, then below having to list the orchestra, conductor and any soloist seems redundant. When I cataloged my classical collection, I sorted by Composer which I think is usually more important to most people, Not having a side A and side B is a little awkward in the case of Vinyl, but I can live with it. Only showing the composer's last name is a little awkward, Strauss, which one? (Although when I search it does seem to be able to differentiate fairly well). Anyway, it's hard to tell after only uploading 2 albums, let's see how it works out |
| 6th Aug 2014, 2:57 AM | #4 REPORT | |
| Trainman Trainman Member since Jun 2014 2559 Points Moderator | I see the Baroque Beatles book listed, would PDQ Bach also be appropriate? |
| 6th Aug 2014, 4:08 AM | #5 REPORT | |
| bobzyeruncle Member since Jan 2013 28 Points | It's going to be a nightmare to get country of origin, distribution, etc for the CD era!  Booklets printed in the Netherlands, CD's from Japan and a box made in China all for a single release.Great idea, though! Cheers, as usual OC.  |
| 6th Aug 2014, 9:02 AM | #6 REPORT | |
| Orbiting Cat Member since Jan 2008 1176 Points Administrator |
Trainman wrote:
I see the Baroque Beatles book listed, would PDQ Bach also be appropriate?
I would think so yes. |
| 6th Aug 2014, 9:04 AM | #7 REPORT | |
| Orbiting Cat Member since Jan 2008 1176 Points Administrator |
Trainman wrote:
Listing the artist, then below having to list the orchestra, conductor and any soloist seems redundant.
The "artist" field is a freeform and can include any number of performers, eg "Anton Bruckner, Claudio Abbado and Lucerne Festival Orchestra". I've updated the "Add Item" page to show this example. |
| 6th Aug 2014, 9:05 AM | #8 REPORT | |
| Orbiting Cat Member since Jan 2008 1176 Points Administrator |
Trainman wrote:
Only showing the composer's last name is a little awkward, Strauss, which one? (Although when I search it does seem to be able to differentiate fairly well).
We're going to shorten the most famous composers to their surnames, but items can be entered using either short or long name, and they will be automatically grouped. Some composers may not have had their "short name" entered yet. |
| 6th Aug 2014, 9:06 AM | #9 REPORT | |
| Orbiting Cat Member since Jan 2008 1176 Points Administrator |
Trainman wrote:
When I cataloged my classical collection, I sorted by Composer which I think is usually more important to most people,
This is on the "todo list" and will be done! |
| 6th Aug 2014, 3:28 PM | #10 REPORT | |
| Trainman Trainman Member since Jun 2014 2559 Points Moderator | I know you said not to duplicate from other worlds, but what about EP's that may be on "45cat". I just added a Boston Pops EP that is over there, I have more that may or may not be, and I have a few others, notable Liberace and a couple other pianists I can't think of at the moment. It's a situation similar to what was mentioned last night about 78's. |
| 6th Aug 2014, 3:48 PM | #11 REPORT | |
 | Dr Doom SUBS I wanna eat an artichoke once in a while Member since Feb 2008 25207 Points Administrator |
Trainman wrote:
I know you said not to duplicate from other worlds, .
We edited that bit out. It's fine to duplicate things |
| 6th Aug 2014, 4:26 PM | #12 REPORT | |
 | nboldock Lend me ten pounds and I'll buy you a drink. Member since Feb 2012 7169 Points Moderator | Indeed, and you'll note many of the items that are already on Classical World have been copied over from elsewhere (the ones I added for starters!). |
| 6th Aug 2014, 4:34 PM | #13 REPORT | |
 | Jock_Girl A girl who looks good in vinyl Member since Dec 2012 1544 Points Moderator |
Trainman wrote:
I know you said not to duplicate from other worlds, but what about EP's that may be on "45cat"..
Is it possibly time for an EP world?  I say that in jest, but at the same time I think that would be a bit cool Amy |
| 6th Aug 2014, 9:10 PM | #14 REPORT | |
| Orbiting Cat Member since Jan 2008 1176 Points Administrator | Some upgrades to Classical Music World: Collections/wants can now be summarised and sorted by media format, composer, orchestra, soloist and conductor. |
| 14th Aug 2014, 8:47 AM | #15 REPORT | |
| Pridesale Member since Mar 2013 798 Points |
Jock_Girl wrote:
Trainman wrote:
I know you said not to duplicate from other worlds, but what about EP's that may be on "45cat"..
Is it possibly time for an EP world? I say that in jest, but at the same time I think that would be a bit cool Amy I think as on 45cat searching by format EP is possible a dedicated world would be over-redundant. |
| 14th Aug 2014, 9:00 AM | #16 REPORT | |
| nboldock Lend me ten pounds and I'll buy you a drink. Member since Feb 2012 7169 Points Moderator |
Orbiting Cat wrote:
Some upgrades to Classical Music World:
Collections/wants can now be summarised and sorted by media format, composer, orchestra, soloist and conductor. |
| 1st Jan 2015, 7:07 PM | #17 REPORT | |
| TheJudge In-house specialist in drive-by moddings. Member since Dec 2012 3714 Points Moderator | Just coming to entering some of the classical discs in D_T_F's stash (having put my own classical LPs in Vinyl Albums before this world was set up), I have to say that I'm not at all happy that I can't enter the proper side/track designations. It seems very unsatisfactory to have to enter them as if they were CDs and then - if bothered - to add notes saying which tracks on which side. Is there a way of setting it so that - when selecting 'Vinyl Album', 'Vinyl Box Set', etc. in the drop-down - it will change the entry options for the tracks? |
| 1st Jan 2015, 8:09 PM | #18 REPORT | |
 | Redpunk SUBS Crates Are For Digging Member since Aug 2012 25243 Points Moderator | Hi there Judge, I use the SECTIONBREAK to add Side A / 1 etc so it looks more like the other Worlds layout. Don't know of any drop down options. |
| 2nd Jan 2015, 6:58 PM | #19 REPORT | |
| TheJudge In-house specialist in drive-by moddings. Member since Dec 2012 3714 Points Moderator | Trouble with that is that if you have one piece over more than one side, then the SECTIONBREAKs are either going to cancel each other out, augment each other or just fail completely. |
| 25th Jan 2015, 6:20 PM | #20 REPORT | |
 | Magic Marmalade If you're not lost... It's not an adventure! Member since Jun 2014 3735 Points Moderator |
TheJudge wrote:
Just coming to entering some of the classical discs in D_T_F's stash (having put my own classical LPs in Vinyl Albums before this world was set up), I have to say that I'm not at all happy that I can't enter the proper side/track designations. It seems very unsatisfactory to have to enter them as if they were CDs and then - if bothered - to add notes saying which tracks on which side.
Is there a way of setting it so that - when selecting 'Vinyl Album', 'Vinyl Box Set', etc. in the drop-down - it will change the entry options for the tracks? I have to second that... Just entered a couple of vinyls, and in addition to working out a way to sectionbreak and then sub-sectionbreak from the title of the work, the section of that piece, then whatever other titles, you have to add "Side 1" making the actual heading or title disappear in a mess. Also... a lot of entries have two separate works on each side, with two different conductors, soloists and/or orchestras, and more than one soloist in one piece of music, can we add multiple soloists and conductors etc. option? |
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