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  28th Aug 2017, 11:08 AM#1  REPORT  
lagartija

Member since Aug 2017
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Hi,
I'm in NZ and I have just find an old LP acetate of TWINKLE (no label, no ref) with the following track list:
SIDE 1
THE BOY OF MY DREAM
TOMMY
POOR OLD JOHNY
A LONELY SINGING DOLL
UNHAPPY BOY
SIDE2
TERRY
SO SAD
I NEED YOUR HAND IN MINE
AIN’T NOBODY HOME BUT ME
GOLDEN LIGHTS

As Twinkle only made 7' (before the recent lps) does anybody here can give me some info or ideas about this one? or give me a contact where I could search for info about it?
thanks a lot



  28th Aug 2017, 3:25 PM#2  REPORT  
scrough

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The 'recent LPs' are more likely to be CDs. According to Wikipedia she did make one LP titled 'Little Star' which would have been on Decca, but I wasn't able to locate a track list.


  28th Aug 2017, 4:29 PM#3  REPORT  
TopPopper

Member since Mar 2013
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It could ether be an acetate of an actual album, released or not, or it could be something made for personal use by someone in the studio. Looking at the tracks on the acetate, all of them were commercially released at various times, so I would tend to think the latter.

If you could scan and post it up to the site, that would be great, and may also attract some more info.




  28th Aug 2017, 10:05 PM#4  REPORT  
lagartija

Member since Aug 2017
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Thanks,
I'll post soon pictures.
(the acetate is definitively an old one...)

and for 'little star' on Decca, that is what I thought first but I haven't find any info on it too...


  29th Aug 2017, 10:10 AM#5  REPORT  
Fokeman

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Yes, I think you're right - it would have been perfectly possible to make a recording of all her singles and put it onto one disc using the disc-making service offered using something like emidisc blanks. I've seen a number of these in the past and they weren't necessarily done by a studio where the artists were recording. Instead it was a service offered to anyone to make a record from other records or tapes.

Looking at the dates of the originals this could have been done any time after about 1965.


  30th Aug 2017, 11:57 PM#6  REPORT  
lagartija

Member since Aug 2017
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Will post the pictures this WE

|Just a thought about the disc-making service scenario - which for now is the most likely, we would have had the tracklisting mostly following the 7'...(which is not):
It is hard to believe someone making his own tracklisting from the 7' collections if he just wanted to hear them on a LP no?


  31st Aug 2017, 6:41 PM#7  REPORT  
TopPopper

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Could be a studio product, cut from tapes. Hard to know why it was made. Look forward to seeing some scans.


  2nd Sep 2017, 10:09 PM#8  REPORT  
lagartija

Member since Aug 2017
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here are some pictures, of the 'original' cover (with a small newspaper cut) and writings. and of the acetate...On side 2, the only ref on the acetate
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[img][/img]SIDE2%20DETAIL_zpsbkgyi3d7.jpg


  2nd Sep 2017, 11:29 PM#9  REPORT  
TheJudge

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Can't see them; Photobucket have a reputation for trying to screw money out of users by forcing them into 'upgrading' their accounts in order to get anything to show at all.


  3rd Sep 2017, 12:39 AM#10  REPORT  
TopPopper

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Including pictures which have been hosted on third party websites for years - suddenly snatched away unless the user pays Photobucket a few hudred bucks. Some call it ransomware...


  3rd Sep 2017, 12:39 AM#11  REPORT  
lagartija

Member since Aug 2017
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in this case what is the best way to put pictures? i'll change this...


  3rd Sep 2017, 1:09 AM#12  REPORT  
TopPopper

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A different host site, eg, Imagur.


  3rd Sep 2017, 2:22 AM#13  REPORT  
lagartija

Member since Aug 2017
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NEW TRY hope it's better
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  3rd Sep 2017, 7:37 AM#14  REPORT  
getalife

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All look good here.


  11th Sep 2017, 10:54 PM#15  REPORT  
lagartija

Member since Aug 2017
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anyone here with a clue on this?
Thanks!


  12th Sep 2017, 7:45 AM#16  REPORT  
KeithS SUBS

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Here's an interesting read about Phil Solomon who's name features as co-producer

.http://www.allmusic.com/artist/phil-solomon-mn0001009533


  12th Sep 2017, 8:23 AM#17  REPORT  
TopPopper

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There's nothing much to go on. It's privately made - we know not why. It's something people would do (if they had access to the gear) before cassettes or CD burners, and as with those technologies, it could be in-studio, fan-made, or for some practical purpose, eg to give to someone in the business.

Unless someone can glean something from the physical dics, which might give an indication of where it originated, it's impossible to know. Two play holes is curious though.


  12th Sep 2017, 1:02 PM#18  REPORT  
sladesounds

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TopPopper wrote:
Two play holes is curious though.

Two holes are used on some type of lathes to stop the discs being cut from slipping.

You'll see an example in the video below at the 01:20 mark of a two holed disc being fitted on to the lathe.



Edited by sladesounds on 12th Sep 2017, 3:55 PM

  12th Sep 2017, 2:02 PM#19  REPORT  
getalife

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I have had the same problem with some of my 45rpm acetates, have spoken to two from IBC studios, but their memory not that good, even try to contact Barry Gibb (fat chance of that) for information.

Ref: holes in acetates, all the acetates I got from IBC studios do not have any extra holes in them, be it 45rpm or 33rpm. The lath in the video is completely different to the one I saw on my visit to IBC studio.


  15th Sep 2017, 9:11 AM#20  REPORT  
carryonsidney

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twinned holed acetates were an american standard from early days of records, as the video demonstrates one the holes is for a holding pin - this ensures the discs dont slip when they are being carved.

Phil Soloman passed away just a couple of years ago in Bournemouth actually, he was 91 [roughly].

The circumstances of Twinkle's career are bit vague, with "retirement" at 18, but she came back later on. Its not inconceivable to me that Decca or her management may have planned an album. I think you have an original 60's disc there, its all Decca material and the lettering on the disc is done in that waxy crayon. I have had here some 7" acetates with exact same kind of notation on them. Its looks to me like a genuine album tryout.




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