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| 5th Sep 2017, 3:33 PM | #1 REPORT | |
 | podgypipes Member since Oct 2013 49 Points | What is the best and easiest software for scanning and adjusting label prints? I have tried paint and the one on my Cannon printer and am completely lost. any body help ? thanks |
| 5th Sep 2017, 5:16 PM | #2 REPORT | |
 | Redpunk SUBS Crates Are For Digging Member since Aug 2012 25322 Points Moderator | I use paint.net which even for a technophobe like me is quite straight forward. |
| 5th Sep 2017, 5:32 PM | #3 REPORT | |
 | Magic Marmalade If you're not lost... It's not an adventure! Member since Jun 2014 3745 Points Moderator | I could do with an alternative myself, as Microsoft has decided tomake my HP Photoimpression software not work anymore... (I loved that... just open the label scan with it, draw a circle, hit crop) Tried GIMP, but that is so convoluted it's untrue, you have to ipen label scan,, toggle, add alpha channel, invert image, draw circle, invert again, crop (clear), then export. And MS paint doesn't have a circular crop feature... surely it ain't rocket science for these companies?!!! Surely a simple programme that just allows you to draw a diameter across the label scan, and makes a circle around area Pie arrr squared, then crop all outside this? |
| 5th Sep 2017, 5:37 PM | #4 REPORT | |
| podgypipes Member since Oct 2013 49 Points | Hiya Redpunk, I have tried paint.net but this is not simple, how do you do it? |
| 5th Sep 2017, 6:05 PM | #5 REPORT | |
 | TopPopper Member since Mar 2013 2612 Points | I use different programs, depending on what I need to do. For cutting into circle, definitely Paint.net - it's easy. Right-click the image, and 'open with' Paint.net. Should be a small box of icons in the corner - choose the circle with the dotted outline, then you can draw your circle (only needs to be approximately right). Then click the white arrow in that box of icons, and you can adjust the edges of the circle until they are just-so - then crop and you're done. |
| 5th Sep 2017, 6:53 PM | #6 REPORT | |
| Redpunk SUBS Crates Are For Digging Member since Aug 2012 25322 Points Moderator | I click on the circle and use the mouse to create the label crop by cutting a large part of the vinyl off first then go to layers and use rotate / zoom to get the image level then return to crop the label fully. |
| 5th Sep 2017, 7:01 PM | #7 REPORT | |
| podgypipes Member since Oct 2013 49 Points | That worked, TopPopper, thanks for your help, maybe I'll get some labels done now. |
| 5th Sep 2017, 7:26 PM | #8 REPORT | |
| Redpunk SUBS Crates Are For Digging Member since Aug 2012 25322 Points Moderator | We will await the tsunami of images. |
| 5th Sep 2017, 9:22 PM | #9 REPORT | |
| TopPopper Member since Mar 2013 2612 Points | Yeah, I do what Redpunk does - make a rough crop first, so I can get the label itself occupying most of the screen, then go for the rotation and finally, the precision crop. It does help. Tip: make sure when you draw the circle, not to let it overlap the edge of the image, or it will forever have a straight edge! Err on the side of drawing it too small, and pull it bigger. |
| 5th Sep 2017, 9:43 PM | #10 REPORT | |
 | Charlie Chalk Self praise is no recommendation. Member since Oct 2011 45189 Points Moderator | I do roughly the same, although I crop to a square first, before cropping to a circle, using either paint.net or Microsoft Office Picture Manager. I find it much easier cropping to a circle from a square that almost touches the label. |
| 6th Sep 2017, 7:38 AM | #11 REPORT | |
| kab2112 SUBS Wales, where men are men and sheep are nervous Member since Jan 2011 15471 Points Moderator | I've tried several and found GIMP to be much the easiest to use for rotating and cropping labels etc. I use this all the time now and I upload lots and lots of label and CD scans etc that I have edited using GIMP. Edited by kab2112 on 6th Sep 2017, 9:25 AM |
| 6th Sep 2017, 9:13 AM | #12 REPORT | |
| fixbutte Member since Jan 2013 1483 Points Moderator |
Charlie Chalk wrote:
I find it much easier cropping to a circle from a square that almost touches the label.
Definitely. |
| 6th Sep 2017, 12:55 PM | #13 REPORT | |
 | The_Vinyl_Junkie SUBS My body is on the diminishing streak. Member since Dec 2011 8082 Points Moderator | I use PhotoStudio V5.5 which has the option of drawing a circle from the center. Takes all of about 3 seconds to crop the label. |
| 6th Sep 2017, 5:19 PM | #14 REPORT | |
| scrough🍰 No picture 'cos I'm not into 45rpm :( Member since Jan 2013 3428 Points Moderator |
Redpunk wrote:
...then go to layers and use rotate / zoom to get the image level ...
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| 8th Sep 2017, 10:08 AM | #15 REPORT | |
| The_Vinyl_Junkie SUBS My body is on the diminishing streak. Member since Dec 2011 8082 Points Moderator | For rotation I use "Media Impression 2" which has a sliding bar for rotating the image and can rotate to the "Nth" degree. I use this for all my scans prior to using the other software for cropping. |
| 8th Sep 2017, 5:50 PM | #16 REPORT | |
| TopPopper Member since Mar 2013 2612 Points | so does Photoshop - I can use my mousewheel to rotate smoothly - although for labels, I stick with Paint.net. It's really just a case of playing around with these things and seeing what feels best. |
| 11th Sep 2017, 10:03 AM | #17 REPORT | |
 | Scratchy45 In Revived 45s, disinterred 33&1/3s, saved 78s Member since Jul 2011 782 Points | [EDIT] Apologies: forgot I was writing for the 78rpm forum where labels are the concern. As a Windows user, I tend to go for a 2-stage approach on the "horses for courses" principle, and use 2 different open-source programs. The first (IrfanView) is for the stuff that can be done on a "point-and shoot" sort of basis, and the second (Gimp) for the things I can't do in IrfanView (e.g. label crops). Stage1: I kick off scanning from within Irfanview. Rectangular images are normally a snip to rotate/flip (LRVH keys), crop (default rectangular select, then Edit/Crop Selection), and scale ( Image/Resize-Resample). Unless further image manipulation is required, rectangular scanned images will be good to go. I do most initial off-kilter image rotation by eye through the "Paint" functions toggled on/off through the F12 key on Windows hardware - the Straighten/Rotate tool is found underneath bucket fill. Identify straight edge in image to use, Move to first point on this edge, Hold down notional left mouse button, Move to 2nd point on edge (observing the guide line), release mouse button. NB: toggle Paint off again with F12 before cropping. Stage 2: I use Gimp (with toolbox visible) to produce circular images for label crops, and do circular image sizing I've NEVER EVER had to go through the arcane sequence MagicMarmalade describes. I do everything in JPG format and go through a sequence as follows to produce a circular label image: Click on Ellipse select tool and then Select on label image. "Edit/Copy". "Edit/Paste to new image", "Image/scale", "File/Export" to a new image. If the original selection is no good, close the new image window, adjust selection and repeat until OK. Export rather than Save is a bit of a pain, but it's a minor gripe. Ignore the "unsaved changes" messages during "File/Close View" or "File/Close All" - they're irrelevant. I do something similar for photos, but the functions required are different ones For example, Gimp's "Tools/Transform tools/Perspective" is handy to manipulate sleeve pic photos (many have perspective artefacts) after cropping to a larger square around the sleeve pic. Stretch the image to the limits of the square - not foolproof, but a workable solution. Edited by Scratchy45 on 12th Sep 2017, 1:37 AM |
| 11th Sep 2017, 7:45 PM | #18 REPORT | |
 | sladesounds Turning rebellion into money since 1962 Member since Nov 2009 6566 Points Moderator | Try at look at this simple guide I posted on 45cat paint.net |
| 13th Sep 2017, 3:24 AM | #19 REPORT | |
 | xiphophilos Member since Dec 2013 3351 Points Moderator | Love your paint.net guide, sladesounds. We should have it somewhere easily and visibly available on 78rpm world too. In the absence of that, I've bookmarked it so I can guide the next hapless newbie there. |
| 13th Sep 2017, 12:14 PM | #20 REPORT | |
| Magic Marmalade If you're not lost... It's not an adventure! Member since Jun 2014 3745 Points Moderator |
Scratchy45 wrote:
[EDIT] I use Gimp (with toolbox visible) to produce circular images for label crops, and do circular image sizing I've NEVER EVER had to go through the arcane sequence MagicMarmalade describes.
I was unfamiliar with GIMP method, so went by what I found on the net... it did seem a little too long winded, so had a play with it yesterday, and managed to get it down to simply opening the image, making the circle with elipse, "invert" (so it crops outside circle) then "Clear", so a little easier :) ( don't know why the tutorial I found went through all the toggle, double invert etc. process.) |
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