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  9th Dec 2021, 3:58 AM#21  REPORT  
Twistin

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LaurenceD wrote:
[...] As a toddler I noticed her pronouncing "idea" with a trailing 'r' sound, and asked her where that 'r' came from. She got a bit touchy about it. [...]

Talk about getting touchy, a friend of mine years ago from Baltimore-way would always pronounce water as "wooter" -- not to rhyme with scooter but like wood-er.) So when I asked him why he spoke it that way and explained that "wat" is never spoken as "woot", he became annoyed and refused to discuss it (nor update his pronunciation...)

When I moved from NC to Cali in the 80s, I de-programmed most of my Southern accent before I got there. Since I was a radio DJ, once I started work in radio in CA, my on-air-personality co-workers ripped me apart, making fun of every miniscule remaining shard of my old accent. Didn't bother me. Helped me finish that task. But now that I am back in NC, I can slip in and out of the two dialects easily.


  9th Dec 2021, 4:41 AM#22  REPORT  
Break-In Master

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Twistin wrote:
LaurenceD wrote:
[...] As a toddler I noticed her pronouncing "idea" with a trailing 'r' sound, and asked her where that 'r' came from. She got a bit touchy about it. [...]

Talk about getting touchy, a friend of mine years ago from Baltimore-way would always pronounce water as "wooter" -- not to rhyme with scooter but like wood-er.) So when I asked him why he spoke it that way and explained that "wat" is never spoken as "woot", he became annoyed and refused to discuss it (nor update his pronunciation...)

When I moved from NC to Cali in the 80s, I de-programmed most of my Southern accent before I got there. Since I was a radio DJ, once I started work in radio in CA, my on-air-personality co-workers ripped me apart, making fun of every minscule remaining shard of my old accent. Didn't bother me. Helped me finish that task. But now that I am back in NC, I can slip in and out of the two dialects easily.
EVERYONE BUT ME has been a radio jock!! When the hell is it MY turn??
I have cousins from Baltimore and, although I don't quite recall their dialect, anymore because, I haven't seen or talked to any of them in at least 20 years, one I DO recall is that, one of them was telling one of her kids to get down from somewhere and she was yell, "Git, DEOWN!!". Other cousins are from Gary, Ind. and have a slightly similar accent. One time, they were here at our house and it was raining while we were trying to cook on the grill outside. Someone went out back to flip the burgers and they were wearing rain ponchos with the hoods up. One of my cousins stepped outside to tell them something and she loudly said, "Heee, Yoo guys look just like the keee keee keee!". (Instead of: "Hey", "You", "KKK"). We made of that for decades after.


  10th Dec 2021, 6:57 AM#23  REPORT  
Twistin

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A recent ex-singer for my current band hailed from Wisconsin, and while hard to describe, he also had a very distinct twang to specific words and phrases. My least favorite US accents would have to be Baltimore and Boston. John Waters worked wonders for the former, probably to the chagrin of all of Maryland, lol.

Yeah, there's a wealth of unique accents across our great land(s). US variations are more noticeable to us, I suspect, while many of the British variables sound very similar to our untrained Yank ears (although over the years, I have a better discernment for many GBR regions, just not so acutely as it is to their ears.)


  10th Dec 2021, 7:42 AM#24  REPORT  
Break-In Master

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Twistin wrote:
A recent ex-singer for my current band hailed from Wisconsin, and while hard to describe, he also had a very distinct twang to specific words and phrases. My least favorite US accents would have to be Baltimore and Boston. John Waters worked wonders for the former, probably to the chagrin of all of Maryland, lol.

Yeah, there's a wealth of unique accents across our great land(s). US variations are more noticeable to us, I suspect, while many of the British variables sound very similar to our untrained Yank ears (although over the years, I have a better discernment for many GBR regions, just not so acutely as it is to their ears.)
I've been able to tell the differences, too but, I probably end up mixing a few of them when I'm trying to do British accents. I also don't quite know the names of a lot of them, either but can, pretty much, tell the subtle differences from one to the other. I tend to mostly do a Swindonese accent or a Scouse accent and sometimes a more posh style which I've actually heard a few people refer to as a French accent! How, why, I haven't a clue!! It sounds NOTHING like a French accent!! Maybe they're just joking about it. Example: Inspector Fenwick.


Edited by Break-In Master on 10th Dec 2021, 7:54 AM

  24th Dec 2021, 4:25 AM#25  REPORT  
annaloog

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Twistin wrote:
In studying the British dialect, I am baffled by the rendition of the letter "r". Typically, I hear that word "saw" pronounced "soar"....
Listening to "A Day In The Life", I always hear John singing, "I soar a film today, oh boy ...."


  26th Dec 2021, 7:57 PM#26  REPORT  
Juke Jules SUBS

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getalife wrote:
Today I traveled from Uxbridge to central London by bus and underground train and very little English was spoken on my journey both ways, so how you can tell a London accent is anyone guess

Of course, they use the New Uxbridge Dictionary there :wink:


  26th Dec 2021, 9:27 PM#27  REPORT  
getalife

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Juke Jules wrote:
getalife wrote:
Today I traveled from Uxbridge to central London by bus and underground train and very little English was spoken on my journey both ways, so how you can tell a London accent is anyone guess

Of course, they use the New Uxbridge Dictionary there :wink:


So true :thumbsup: :laugh: :whistle: ln Dorset at the moment London of fifty or sixty years ago, though they are not keen on Londoners. :whistle:


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