I have a related question: is anyone aware of any sort of online database for unaired pilots? Or pilots that did air but never went to series? I can imagine it would be useful when indexing here.
I have a related question: is anyone aware of any sort of online database for unaired pilots? Or pilots that did air but never went to series? I can imagine it would be useful when indexing here.
That helps, though it being Wikipedia some might not treat it as a verifiable source. I recently discovered that Vincent Terrace the TV historian has published several volumes listing aired and unbroadcast TV pilots. The books are hellish expensive but that's the sort of resource. I agree with the OP's suggestion of a sub-category for pilots though it might require discussion as to what to include and allow. For example, some pilots have been retooled as movies (random example: Manchester Prep had new scenes filmed and was released as Cruel Intentions II). Some have not been officially/legally shown but have turned up on bootleg VHS or DVD or online. Some are nonexistent: for example, the script for the pilot for a mid-1960s spin-off of Doctor Who was published by its writer Terry Nation about 25 years ago; no evidence it was ever filmed, but someone could potentially enter it anyway.
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That helps, though it being Wikipedia some might not treat it as a verifiable source. I recently discovered that Vincent Terrace the TV historian has published several volumes listing aired and unbroadcast TV pilots. The books are hellish expensive but that's the sort of resource. I agree with the OP's suggestion of a sub-category for pilots though it might require discussion as to what to include and allow. For example, some pilots have been retooled as movies (random example: Manchester Prep had new scenes filmed and was released as Cruel Intentions II). Some have not been officially/legally shown but have turned up on bootleg VHS or DVD or online. Some are nonexistent: for example, the script for the pilot for a mid-1960s spin-off of Doctor Who was published by its writer Terry Nation about 25 years ago; no evidence it was ever filmed, but someone could potentially enter it anyway.
There is quite a lot of Dr Who poss related (Nation's problem was he retained rights to Daleks rather than assigning them to the BBC , which was clever but it meant for money he was chasing Dalek spin offs and inventing more space adversaries). YT chanel Dalek 63-88 has quite a bit of info on the 1960s spin off - part trailed in the UK comics of the time and other similar items - I think one was going to be aimed at the US ) it was timing and lack of studio time that meant pilots didnt get made - but the gist of some scripts were in the comic pages as referenced in the vids.
I suppose some of the "Armchair Theatre" airings were pilots - some became later series others did not , but some just written on their own with requests for more coming from TV producers from those they liked
There is quite a lot of Dr Who poss related (Nation's problem was he retained rights to Daleks rather than assigning them to the BBC , which was clever but it meant for money he was chasing Dalek spin offs and inventing more space adversaries).
Yeah it was complex. The pilot I referred to was something Nation tried to interest a US network in producing, too. He ended up using characters from it in a serial he wrote for the main show (Dalek Master Plan). Further to the point of what constitutes a pilot or backdoor pilot, during the Steven Moffat era of the show a number of episodes (most notably ones featuring a group of Victorian detectives called the Paternoster Gang, but also River Song and others) were formatted and presented just like backdoor pilots, but reportedly Moffat had no intention of actually doing spinoffs from them. So someone could choose to index, say, The Snowmen or The Crimson Horror (episodes with the Paternosters) as backdoor pilots, even though they weren't. I still like the idea of indexing pilots but how wide a net should be cast?