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| 11th Mar 2023, 1:47 PM | #1 REPORT | |
 | librsh Member since Jun 2013 3437 Points | In 2022 vinyl albums outsold CDs in units (41 million vs. 33 million) for the first time since 1987 according to RIAA |
| 12th Mar 2023, 9:05 PM | #2 REPORT | |
 | zabadak Caddacack oh da ca-caddacack, shy shy skagellack Member since Jun 2010 4129 Points |
librsh wrote:
In 2022 vinyl albums outsold CDs in units (41 million vs. 33 million) for the first time since 1987 according to RIAA
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| 14th Mar 2023, 7:57 AM | #3 REPORT | |
 | Quad5point1 ● Member since Jul 2012 10496 Points | For me this is a retrograde step. Having grown up and buying music throughout the 60s 70s and 80s on vinyl I for one welcomed and embraced the Digital Revolution. If I had all the vinyl that was destroyed by people mishandling them I would be worth a fortune. Over the years I kissed goodbye to all my original Pink Floyd, King Crimson, Led Zeppelin and most of the albums I bought on the Vertigo swirl label to name but a few |
| 14th Mar 2023, 6:43 PM | #4 REPORT | |
 | carryonsidney a happy disposition is an omnious sign.... Member since Feb 2010 1700 Points Moderator | Around here you cant give away CDs now, charity shops all over town have full shelves of buy 3 (or 4) for a pound and they still don't. Point in case I walked into a charity shop last week and found a brand new & sealed album by a well known band for 50p thats the wifes birthday present sorted!  |
| 14th Mar 2023, 7:46 PM | #5 REPORT | |
| Quad5point1 ● Member since Jul 2012 10496 Points | It's the long lasting quality I'm after whch, no matter how careful you are with vinyl they will always degrade much faster than a CD, and yes I too can walk into a Charity shop and buy 3 CD's for £1, that's if you want Bing Crosby, Dean Martin and countless Soundtrack albums but the same charity shops will have Ken Dodd's Greatest hits on Vinyl for £25?. God forbid they ever get any Beatles, I feel sorry for the unenlightened people buying charity shop vinyl because somebody somewhere said "Vinyl's making a comeback and they're worth a lot of money now". You'll also never find SHM-CD's, Blu-Ray Audio and DVD Audio in a charity shop. Personally I think it's a blip, it's just the over-marketing of vinyl is better than CD with it's clever use of sentiment and the record companies trying to get rid of Digital media in favour of Streaming. One thing I never ever got was this 180g vinyl, back in the 60's and 70's vinyl was never 180g and particularly during the oil crisis of the 70's when they used recycled vinyl which had terrible sound reproduction. The truth is that digital media is a lot easier to copy and distribute and that's why the record giants want it gone, they're losing money and want people to pay monthly fees for the consumption of music and overcharge for inferior vinyl.  |
| 14th Mar 2023, 10:11 PM | #6 REPORT | |
 | Steel-River-Wet SUBS ● M. Bolan, D. Bowie, A. Harvey & Olivia NJ. RIP x Member since Sep 2011 1842 Points | CDs' 3 for a pound?..4 for a pound?..I now get them in my fave charity shop at 5 for a pound. The same shop that doesn't stock 7" vinyl..because 'no-one wants them anymore'. Ok, I'll do a deal with you I said, every dozen you get I'll give you a pound (Big deal)! A few weeks ago I got over 40 from them..inc. 8 nearly mint condition Four Seasons records..all from the '60's (that were on my 45 cat 'Wants list'). They only charged me ONE pound..for the lot. It was so good, that I went back the next week and gave them some extra money for their charity. |
| 14th Mar 2023, 10:54 PM | #7 REPORT | |
 | Redpunk Crates Are For Digging Member since Aug 2012 24979 Points Moderator | I buy more CD’s than vinyl at present as CD’s are so cheap. My local charity shop is selling CD’s at 10p a pop both albums and singles they must have come from someone’s treasured collection as they are all in those resealable plastic sleeves. |
| 16th Mar 2023, 1:28 PM | #8 REPORT | |
 | UG1002 Flying Spaghetti Monster Member since Jul 2020 111 Points | I wish i could get cd so cheap Record company wil have to fight youtube  Yes vinyl comeback but please be cheap i try buy motorhead original from vinyl store $180 man want. |
| 17th Mar 2023, 12:00 AM | #9 REPORT | |
| GimmeVinyl Member since Nov 2019 597 Points | Vinyl degrading faster than CDs? You want to tell that to the LPs and 45s that are in my collection that were pressed in the 1950s? If that was the case, these pressings should sound like total crap, right? But... They don't! What are you playing your vinyl with? Sewing needles? Nappy pins? Roofing nails? You keep vinyl in their protective sleeves, clean them properly, handle them properly, and most important of all, change your stylus after 1000 plays, and your vinyl collection should last you a lifetime! People that seriously have collected vinyl for decades will tell you the same thing. As for CDs... Well... You can't play vinyl in your car.. unless you have an RCA Victor underdash 45 RPM record player from the '60s.. so CDs suffice in that respect, but those soft CD car cases can do a real job to your CDs, and they end up getting scratched and start skipping a lot worse than my vinyl at home does. |
| 17th Mar 2023, 12:31 PM | #10 REPORT | |
| Quad5point1 ● Member since Jul 2012 10496 Points |
GimmeVinyl wrote:
Vinyl degrading faster than CDs? You want to tell that to the LPs and 45s that are in my collection that were pressed in the 1950s? If that was the case, these pressings should sound like total crap, right? But... They don't! What are you playing your vinyl with? Sewing needles? Nappy pins? Roofing nails? You keep vinyl in their protective sleeves, clean them properly, handle them properly, and most important of all, change your stylus after 1000 plays, and your vinyl collection should last you a lifetime! People that seriously have collected vinyl for decades will tell you the same thing. As for CDs... Well... You can't play vinyl in your car.. unless you have an RCA Victor underdash 45 RPM record player from the '60s.. so CDs suffice in that respect, but those soft CD car cases can do a real job to your CDs, and they end up getting scratched and start skipping a lot worse than my vinyl at home does.
I'm guessing then you still use a Kodak Box Brownie for taking photos, Super 8 film or VHS Camcorder for movies and have a VHS under your TV to watch movies. When it comes to music in the car, I only have to play a disc once in the car which gets automatically ripped onto the Hard Drive and at home I back up new CDs onto CD-R and keep the original in the case with a clear resealable cover and they are all as good as the day I bought them. I no longer play vinyl at all because of all the faffing about with dust bugs, anti-static cloths, zerostat guns and all the rest of the nonsense that goes with the delights of playing vinyl.  |
| 17th Mar 2023, 8:57 PM | #11 REPORT | |
| GimmeVinyl Member since Nov 2019 597 Points | Well then! Excuse me for being such an old fart... And one that actually knows how to take care of his vinyl! I still don't see being able to have such convenience over sound quality... You can only compress the music so much, before you start losing fidelity.. and that is a proven fact. While I'm at.. as for playback, I absolutely have the ol' Dual turntable connected to a mid 1960s era H.H. Scott 299D tube amplifier that has been serving me faithfully since the mid 1980s.. It sounds awesome! |
| 17th Mar 2023, 9:38 PM | #12 REPORT | |
| Quad5point1 ● Member since Jul 2012 10496 Points |
GimmeVinyl wrote:
Well then! Excuse me for being such an old fart... And one that actually knows how to take care of his vinyl!
No problem, I also know how to look after my vinyl but I choose not to make a career out of it. If you read my original post I did say " If I had all the vinyl that was destroyed by people mishandling them I would be worth a fortune". I didn't say it was me who damaged them but other people, and any that were worth replacing were replaced and the damaged ones discarded. What vinyl I have left will be getting put onto eBay probably later in the year with the exception of a very few that hold special memories for me, but that doesn't mean I will ever play them again as I have them on CD, BluRay Audio, DVD Audio and 5.1 Surround, they'll probably end up in a frame on the wall. |
| 17th Mar 2023, 11:11 PM | #13 REPORT | |
| GimmeVinyl Member since Nov 2019 597 Points | Oh... Trust me... I've been there, back in the days of a wee bit too much drink, and way too much to smoke... Hehe.. pulling out my copy of The Who's Meaty Beaty Big and Bouncy, and finding a spiderweb crack right in the center of the playing surface.. Now, how in the hell did that get there? Or.. looking for an LP that I know is in my collection... But I can't find it. But, as for today.. with the technology that's out there.. it's now just a matter of personal preference. I was pretty bummed out in the mid 90s when the major record companies pulled the proverbial plug on vinyl, but was both amazed and delighted when vinyl returned. Will it last? Don't know. But I do know this. My vinyl collection will definitely outlive me! I don't look at taking good care of my records as a career... It's more of a labor of love. |
| 18th Mar 2023, 12:26 PM | #14 REPORT | |
| kab2112 SUBS Wales, where men are men and sheep are nervous Member since Jan 2011 15461 Points Moderator | I have over 1800 L/Ps (vinyl) that I started buying way back in the 1960s - I have a 1970’s Technics deck and a 1980s Yamaha Amplifier. I also have a TEAC C/D player connected to the Amp. Great sound. I must say that I very rarely play any vinyl as I have all my favourite stuff on CD as well. I used to get the L/P out from my collection [down in the dungeon) and play the C/D. I do miss the odd click and crackle that you get with L/Ps. I played an L/P from 1969 a few weeks ago (Tommy – The Who) it has been played loads of times as it is one of my favourites. Apart from the odd crackle it still sounds great. CDs are easier to store - take less room and skipping tracks is a doddle. I do love my L/Ps though and won't ever part with them. |
| 18th Mar 2023, 4:42 PM | #15 REPORT | |
| Quad5point1 ● Member since Jul 2012 10496 Points | I still have pretty much the same setup from the 70's. I have a Pioneer PL12D Turntable, a Technics SL-D2 Turntable, In the 70's I had a Sansui Amp which I later replaced with an Akai AMU04 and replaced yet again with a Pioneer VSX 1017AV amp for Surround. 1st CD Player was a Trio that cost £495  but I now have a Technics SL-PD867 and a Pioneer DV 696AV for SACD discs. On the cassette front I own a Technics RS-M255X that I used for recording my new albums onto cassette using DBX noise reduction which (to my ears anyway) sounded better than the vinyl. After having moved house recently I just don't have the space for a Vinyl setup and at 68 I no longer have the time or patience to attend to the chores of looking after vinyl  but it's been a very big part of my musical journey. 1st single I ever bought with my pocket money was Look Through Any Window by the Hollies and the first new album I ever bought with my first wage packet was Humble Pie's "As Safe As Yesterday Is" which for me is a classic  Edited by Quad5point1 on 18th Mar 2023, 9:03 PM |
| 23rd Mar 2023, 8:36 PM | #16 REPORT | |
| GimmeVinyl Member since Nov 2019 597 Points | The Hollies.. Look Through Any Window.. Man, it would be very cool to have a copy of that on the Parlophone label, as my copy is the American Imperial imprint. In the US, finding anything on the UK EMI labels is a challenge.. except for The Beatles releases, which even pressings from the 60s and 70s do come up from time to time... When it comes to vocal harmonies, The Hollies really had things down pat! Hey Carrie Anne.... |
| 24th Mar 2023, 9:43 AM | #17 REPORT | |
| carryonsidney a happy disposition is an omnious sign.... Member since Feb 2010 1700 Points Moderator | You do know that you can put a WANTS ad on the sales forum on 45cat right ? Look through any window is very common over here, somebody must have copies for sale. GimmeVinyl wrote:
The Hollies.. Look Through Any Window.. Man, it would be very cool to have a copy of that on the Parlophone label, as my copy is the American Imperial imprint. In the US, finding anything on the UK EMI labels is a challenge.. except for The Beatles releases, which even pressings from the 60s and 70s do come up from time to time...
When it comes to vocal harmonies, The Hollies really had things down pat! Hey Carrie Anne.... |
| 24th Mar 2023, 6:51 PM | #18 REPORT | |
| GimmeVinyl Member since Nov 2019 597 Points | Yes, I'm quite sure that I can find a really nice copy on Parlophone in the UK.. and just to look up prices, I checked in Discogs. There are several nice copies up for sale, and prices seem very reasonable.. starting from under £1 up to £3 .. But overseas shipping is through the roof... From around $10 US up to $26 US.. for one disc! Oh, I'm sure you could spread that cost over the purchase of several more discs.. but with inflation running like it has, I have a bit less to spend on my music than I would like. I haven't really been able to step in to my favorite record shops since last year. |
| 24th Mar 2023, 7:02 PM | #19 REPORT | |
| Quad5point1 ● Member since Jul 2012 10496 Points |
GimmeVinyl wrote:
Yes, I'm quite sure that I can find a really nice copy on Parlophone in the UK.. and just to look up prices, I checked in Discogs. There are several nice copies up for sale, and prices seem very reasonable.. starting from under £1 up to £3 .. But overseas shipping is through the roof... From around $10 US up to $26 US.. for one disc! Oh, I'm sure you could spread that cost over the purchase of several more discs.. but with inflation running like it has, I have a bit less to spend on my music than I would like. I haven't really been able to step in to my favorite record shops since last year.
It's Deja Vu all over again, it's beginning to look a lot like 1980 and 2008 |
| 26th Mar 2023, 11:23 AM | #20 REPORT | |
| UG1002 Flying Spaghetti Monster Member since Jul 2020 111 Points | Price will come down we nedd a resection. |
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